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Physicists demonstrate existence of new subatomic structure

135 pointsby upenover 8 years ago

9 comments

TheRealPomaxover 8 years ago
Mmm, scientific click bait titling. More accurate would be "Physicists demonstrate a theoretical subatomic structure in simulation". That's important, to be sure, but it has nothing to do with demonstrating the existence of a particle - we've determined something "should" exist based on simulation and data-interpretation plenty of times, and many of those have ended up being wrong. And that's good: good science comes from discovering what _isn't_ true, but that makes it all the more silly to have this title on the article. We've got the simulation worked out... now we need to see if it holds up to reality. It might not. If so, that's valuable information.
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philipovover 8 years ago
&quot;On their own, neutrons are very unstable and will convert into protons — positively charged subatomic particles — after ten minutes. &quot; ... &quot;For the tetraneutron, this lifetime is only 5×10^(-22) seconds (a tiny fraction of a billionth of a nanosecond). &quot;<p>10 minutes is an eternity and 5×10^(-22) seconds is closer to what I&#x27;d consider &#x27;very unstable&#x27;
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coldcodeover 8 years ago
Physics is one science where the seemingly impossible winds up being possible all the time. Strange to think people spend a good portion of their lives studying things thought to not exist.
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sctbover 8 years ago
We&#x27;ve updated the link from <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;sciencebulletin.org&#x2F;archives&#x2F;7339.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;sciencebulletin.org&#x2F;archives&#x2F;7339.html</a> to this, which looks like the original source.
GavinMcGover 8 years ago
I read the headline as &quot;demand&quot; and thought this was a rather petulant reaction to the &quot;no new physics&quot; development this year.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;home.cern&#x2F;about&#x2F;updates&#x2F;2016&#x2F;05&#x2F;theory-theoretical-physics-crisis" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;home.cern&#x2F;about&#x2F;updates&#x2F;2016&#x2F;05&#x2F;theory-theoretical-p...</a>
maverick_icemanover 8 years ago
The original paper [1].<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;1607.05631" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;1607.05631</a>
poizan42over 8 years ago
Is it really &quot;subatomic&quot; though? Seems more like it could be considered isotope 4 of element zero.
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zer0gravityover 8 years ago
I don&#x27;t know, maybe this discovery has scientific value. But could it be the sometimes scientists report small &quot;breakthroughs&quot; just so that they keep the funding coming ?
agumonkeyover 8 years ago
Still no turtles.
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