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The States That College Graduates Are Most Likely to Leave

99 pointsby PNWChrisover 8 years ago

9 comments

1024coreover 8 years ago
Not sure about the methodology here. Say you're born in KY, but move to MA for college. And from there you move back to KY after graduation. The first move doesn't count, since you're not college-educated yet. But the second move counts as moving from MA to KY? Is that why MA is losing college graduates, as per this study? Because MA is chock-full of colleges, thats for sure.
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vmarsyover 8 years ago
&quot;if states are losing more college graduates than they are holding or bringing in, they’re effectively subsidizing other states’ skilled labor forces.&quot;<p>Defining those subsidies could be helpful, if this refers to the in-state tuition rates, then it would be interesting to see what proportion of students are in-state. Out of all the in-state students, how many actually move out of the state afterwards? I&#x27;m pretty confident that in-state students are more likely to stay in the state than other students. On the other hand, it would be very unlikely for let&#x27;s say a student who grew up in Georgia and studied at University of Michigan to stay in Michigan after graduation.<p>This is also unfair in the methodology: &quot;Those who grew up in one state, went to college in another, and then moved again are counted as migrating from the state where they attended college.&quot; They were out-of-state students, so didn&#x27;t get subsidized.<p>If there&#x27;s other subsidies (than the in-state deductions) which apply to the entire student body, then the argument below is as valid:<p>&quot;if the <i>US universities</i> are losing more college graduates than they are holding or bringing in, they’re effectively subsidizing other <i>countries</i>’ skilled labor forces.&quot;<p>However, in that case there IS some &quot;quick, easy solution.&quot;
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hamandcheeseover 8 years ago
&gt; A study comparing thousands of American and British census records between 1850 and 1880 showed that nearly two-thirds of American men moved across county lines, while only a quarter of British men did.<p>Doesn&#x27;t really seem like a meaningful comparison. The US is comparatively massive, with individual geographic and economic regions easily being larger than the whole of Britain.<p>Not to mention parts of the US were literally still being settled during that time. The frontier didn&#x27;t close until 1890.
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portmanover 8 years ago
Can anyone from New England comment on why Vermont and New Hampshire are so different? Demographics and weather are similar, so surprised to see that Vermont is highly negative and New Hampshire highly positive.
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neomover 8 years ago
Highly recommend Ed Glaeser&#x27;s book if you&#x27;d like to further understand the socioeconomics and urbanisation aspects of this trend: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Triumph-City-Greatest-Invention-Healthier&#x2F;dp&#x2F;0143120549" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Triumph-City-Greatest-Invention-Healt...</a>
thekevanover 8 years ago
I&#x27;d love to see the statistics for the state of NY outside of NYC.
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hellofunkover 8 years ago
In my anecdotal, non-scientific experience, a lot of students who go to a university out of state may indeed leave that state upon graduation, but not often to return to their home state, often other states instead. So I don&#x27;t see a big disadvantage to the methodology.
misja111over 8 years ago
Does anybody have an idea why so many graduates are moving to Colorado?
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kazinatorover 8 years ago
The States that college grads are most likely to leave?<p>Why, after recent political events, them United ones of A.