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A Dell Customer Service Dispute

168 pointsby t27over 8 years ago

23 comments

sixtypoundhoundover 8 years ago
Facebook comment thread is cute.<p>Memorializing their intial response before their social media team is paged and freaks out...<p>We apologize for the inconvenience caused to you. We will take this as a feedback and we will forward it to the relevant team. As per our records, we see that the Escalation team is handling this case and they are the highest point of contact. Please continue to work with them to avoid any confusion. Our team defers to the Escalation team.<p>-Senthil<p>As this case has been escalated to the highest authority, we will have limited options to work on it. Apologize as I cannot comment on this but I would still recommend you to contact them as they are the only team who can help you to resolve the issues on your system. -Krishna
jpatokalover 8 years ago
There&#x27;s one missing piece in the story here:<p><i>I told him if [returning the laptop again is] the best solution that he can provide (customer care is not an iterative process), I would have no option but to pursue this through my university&#x27;s legal department.</i><p>So what was the best solution that the complainer wanted? It seems like a replacement would have been a pretty reasonable thing to ask for at this point.<p>This, on the other hand, from one of the complainant&#x27;s Facebook replies: <i>In that case, please give me all the details of Prawin K from Dells Bangalore office so that I can sue him in India and the US.</i><p>Pro tip from someone running a support team: threatening legal action is usually a surefire way to cause your support case to screech to a grinding halt, since this requires that lawyers get called in and support engineers have to stop work until they&#x27;ve done their due diligence. What&#x27;s more, the result of that due diligence may be &quot;we&#x27;d prefer not to have you as a customer anymore, kthxbai&quot;.<p>Then again, this buffoon on Dell&#x27;s side clearly hasn&#x27;t received that particular memo: <i>He simply told me that Dell was a very big company and had ample resources to outlast me and my university in a legal battle.</i> Facepalm.
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digital_insover 8 years ago
Dell&#x27;s focus on selling cheaper laptops has resulted in treating the consumer as fungible; and that&#x27;s the reason for their absolutely appalling customer service.<p>You&#x27;re starting to see this across industries where their products and services are commoditized. Quite surprisingly, when the service &#x2F; product turns into a commodity (due to competition), so does the customer (due to budgetary constraints)
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Nitionover 8 years ago
Reading the separate petition about the same support rep that&#x27;s linked from there[1], the corporate nonsense is worse even that what&#x27;s described in the Facebook post.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.change.org&#x2F;p&#x2F;prawin-k-dell-com-dell-computers-fix-38-of-our-school-laptops-you-sold-us-15f5ede6-6a6e-447d-ace7-2e022e9957cf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.change.org&#x2F;p&#x2F;prawin-k-dell-com-dell-computers-fi...</a>
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beezischillinover 8 years ago
I work for one of the largest PR companies in the world (we are in the EU, where customer protection laws are kinda okay, too) and as a rule of thumb they buy Dell when it comes to PCs, don&#x27;t ask me why!). When I was employed, I chose to go with a Mac and my manager had his old HP replaced with an XPS 15 at the same time. We all got brand new machines, but his XPS bit the dust within 2 weeks, so he sent it back to IT. We have premium enterprise support from Dell. They took 3 weeks to send a deffective machine back, which got returned instantly. Not sure if they eventually replaced it or not because after another 3 weeks of waiting IT just told him to pick another Dell. He went with a Mac instead.<p>Thought I&#x27;d share this with you to underline how bad their support is on every level.
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twelvechairsover 8 years ago
I&#x27;m very sympathetic to the plight of this school, however I&#x27;m also very concerned as to the emerging trend of &#x27;customer service only to those who have the ability to make a PR issue of it&#x27;.<p>My advice: Just buy a $5 usb wifi for each of these computers.
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edejongover 8 years ago
I thought it is generally known that Dell customer support has been rated appalling for the last dozen years or so. People keep buying products manufactured by this company at budget prices. By now they should know what they buy: a lottery ticket.
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arjieover 8 years ago
Back in 2008, I had an XPS M1330 with an Nvidia 8400M GS. Now, if you guys remember this, it was the infamous integrated GPU which it would fail after some heat&#x2F;cool cycle because the BGA would crack or some such rubbish. I was covered under warranty when I first bought it, but as soon as I exited the period, they clammed up. It was comical - the thing came with a built-in expiry date! Eventually, of course, they caved and extended the warranty on the motherboard to 1 year longer for everyone who bought that. But before that, man, they denied everything.
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bArrayover 8 years ago
I&#x27;ve had experience with Dell, but it was a nice one. I&#x27;m from the UK, so not sure if the service is better than the US counterpart of I just got lucky.<p>Like an idiot, I bought a cheap 3D printer called OneUp, built it, plugged it into the laptop and blew the laptop up. The 3D printer company both refused responsibility for printer replacement and laptop replacement despite somehow putting 240V onto the USB like due to bad circuit design.<p>Last port of call was to contact Dell for advice how to fix it, who then informed me it&#x27;s still in warranty (bought the laptop from eBay so had no idea).<p>Sent it away, got it back and the parts sheet mentioned that they replaced everything in it. Everything. They gave me a brand new laptop inside it&#x27;s slightly older chasis!
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gizmo686over 8 years ago
Dell&#x27;s customer service is terrible. I had my harddrive die. My laptop was still under warranty, so I decided call Dell to get it fixed. After about 4 hours, I was able to get someone to start working on my case (I was transferred between departments 5 times, and only got someone to deal with the issue after I insisted that the previous person stay on the line until I did).<p>We than spent the next hour diagnosing the fact that it was, in fact, a broken harddrive. Although I told them this from the start, I can understand them wanting to verify this, but the we had found what seemed to be enough evidence that it was a broken HDD within the first 10 minutes, then just ran around in circles (I assume looking for a scripted error code that never showed up for some reason).<p>Once we were done, they agreed to send me a replacement drive, and I asked if it would be possible to upgrade the drive and pay for the difference. They then spent about half an hour looking up what HDD options were available. Once I decided which one I wanted, I was informed that I would be paying for the full price of the drive (but they could still send it instead of the free, non upgraded, one I was entitled to by warranty). I declined and asked for the free one.<p>Once that was done, as we were finalizing the shipping details, I was informed that I would need to send back my broken drive, which I was not willing to do. Eventually I agreed to just pay for a new drive (in retrospect, I should have hung up and bought the drive from another source). They sent me a drive and told me I would be receiving a bill.<p>The bill never came. Two weeks later, I called them again and spent another two hours trying to pay; before being told that I cannot pay because I have not been billed yet because I had not yet failed to return my broken drive in time. About a month after that, I get a voicemail from them about my failure to return my drive.<p>I try to call back, but due to ( I presume) time zone differences I never managed to reach them during office hours, so I just got to voice mail where I had to leave a message asking them to call me back. Despite this, I still had to wait through about half an hour of holding to get a line to the voicemail. After going through this dance a few times, I just asked them to email me the bill, after which point I payed them the $70 for the hard drive.
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IntelMinerover 8 years ago
It&#x27;s very strange how far Dell&#x27;s support has slid<p>The first machine I bought from Dell (A Studio XPS 1640) I wound up breaking the charger on during a flight to the US (I lived in Australia at the time)<p>I called Dell&#x27;s support at 4:55 PM (they closed at 5:00, I&#x27;d literally just gotten home)<p>The agent immediately booked me a tech for 8:00 AM the very next day! said tech arrived promptly at 8:00 and also &quot;as per policy&quot; as he stated, came with literally every single part to my laptop, he could&#x27;ve built an identical replacement right there on the dining room table!<p>This initial impression of Dell lead me to purchase a machine of theirs again, an Alienware M17xR2<p>Unfortunately upon even first booting the machine, it immediately began to display issues. Connecting or disconnecting the AC adapter would freeze the machine (even at the login prompt). Running it on battery it&#x27;d freeze after a few minutes, even idle on a desktop<p>Dell took the unit back, then returned it after about two days. Unit still defective!<p>I shipped the unit back AGAIN for repairs. After two weeks, the unit was returned!...with no hard drives or battery<p>AGAIN I sent the unit off, Dell then helpfully informed me it&#x27;d be 45 days(!) until I received the unit back, due to a &quot;shortage of parts&quot;<p>After about 60 days I received the unit back again. The unit did indeed have the hard drives and battery inserted this time however.<p>Though when I went to turn on the unit, there was no operating system installed. Upon calling Dell, one of their (seemingly endless) Indian support agents helpfully offered to send me an install CD...For $180 (AUD)<p>How is a company able to continually be simply this incompetent, without collapsing under its own weight?
gizmo686over 8 years ago
At what point does this rise to making the &quot;warranty&quot; Dell offers rise to the level of fraud?
cjslepover 8 years ago
This is absolutely horrendous. Dell is continuously denying the customer from escalating their case. Probably because this customer isn&#x27;t a VIP partner like a BestBuy executive. Anecdotally, customer support escalations for individuals such as those can go all the way up to the CEO. There&#x27;s definitely someone higher that could handle the case. But this level of strict-adherence-to-policy without escalating internally is an awful sight to see:<p><i>They are highest level of escalation team at Dell and we cannot supersede their decision.</i><p><i>As per our records, we see that the Escalation team is handling this case and they are the highest point of contact.</i><p><i>ARG and the executive escalation team that you are mentioning are the same and they are the highest level of contact at Dell.</i><p><i>As this case has been escalated to the highest authority, we will have limited options to work on it.</i>
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cmurfover 8 years ago
Wait. 38 computers have the same problem, and Dell is saying it&#x27;s customer induced?
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Tempest1981over 8 years ago
Public shaming to get better service... I guess it works at first, but seems like it doesn&#x27;t scale.
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andrewvijayover 8 years ago
This is pathetic. I cannot imagine how horrible it would be for that person. I was considering buying a dell next. Looks like I have to stick to a mac again!
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whyagaindavidover 8 years ago
I do admit in this case Dell has messed up a lot. But for heaven&#x27;s sake, why does a school buy Inspiron? Here in Europe, we buy Dell latitude - thru Dell Education Portal. I got 2 harddrives for my group with 10 machines in the University - next business day. No waiting with my express code. These days I recommend Latitude even for my friends and family (unless they want OSX).
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vermootenover 8 years ago
This sort of thing is why I no longer buy Dell.
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user5994461over 8 years ago
Looks like complaints from personal buyers.<p>I always thought that Dell was for &quot;entreprisey-clients only&quot;. If you try to get one for yourself as an individual, you&#x27;re on your own.<p>That seems confirmed.
Terrorblade123over 8 years ago
I am the OP of the Facebook post. I just wanted to clarify some points:<p>1. The dept that I have dealt with is called the Advanced Resolution Group (ARG). No one from basic customer care or tech support or out-of-warranty-repairs has heard of them. So far, I know of only one person in ARG, Prawin K. He first told me that he had no manager. When I spoke to a supervisor from tech support, she told me that she will speak to Prawin&#x27;s manager. When I pointed this out, and told him that he had lied, he said &quot;You are assuming too many things. I did not lie because my manager does not take calls and I AM the HIGHEST point of contact&quot;. Since I had complained to BBB, he told me that no matter who I complained to, it will all circle back and I will end up dealing with him each time. Repeated to pleas to get my case tranferred have fallen on deaf ears.<p>2. The tech support initially (read, October) ran diagnostics on my laptop using remote access. They said that it seemed to be a software issue. After the laptop reached the depot, I was told that it is possible that someone spilled something on my laptop when I was not around, and so the damage is customer induced. I was asked to pay 450$ for the repairs (motherboard, keyboard, mousepad). I could not pay such money upfront (I paid only 800$ for the laptop) since I felt that it was a lot for repairing a 1 year old laptop. They sent me my laptop unrepaired.<p>3. After reasoning with them I was asked to pay $350 for the repairs. The out-of-warranty dept was frank enough to tell me that the replacement parts will be refurbished ones, but the seal will be broken by the techician in the depot.<p>4. After paying for the repairs, I was told that I will receive the shipping box within 1-2 business days (email proof). It took them 11 days. First due to delays because of the weekend, and then for some reason they wanted to verify my address to mail me an empty box.<p>5. After getting the laptop back, it still has the existing issues in addition to the old one (screen becomes white along the edges). The only way to get rid of it is it keep tilting the laptop. The way I look at it there are three possilbilties : the replacement parts are faulty, the laptop itself has issues that they are unwilling to accept, the technician screwed up and did not check my system before shipping it back, all of are Dell&#x27;s mistakes.<p>6. I finally got fed up and asked for a refund. I gave them 4 options: Refund 1200$ so that I can take my business elsewhere Refund the out of warranty repair charge so that I can recover at least some money and rest peacefully Give me a replacement system of equivalent cost (i undestand the problem of depreciation of cost) Give me an extension on warranty on the replaced parts (it only has 90 day warranty). Since the parts failed in less than 2 hours, I find it impossible to believe that the next set will last as long. I do not want to end up going through this cycle after 3 months, again.<p>7. I have been told that this beyond the ability of the onsite engineer and the only way is to send the laptop to their depot again.
npsomaratnaover 8 years ago
Did someone change the link? This originally pointed to: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.facebook.com&#x2F;Dell&#x2F;posts&#x2F;10206079690990070" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.facebook.com&#x2F;Dell&#x2F;posts&#x2F;10206079690990070</a>, but it now points to the change.org petition referred to at the end of the aforementioned FB post.
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Dylan16807over 8 years ago
Oh, I had massively confused expectations because of the title of &quot;Dell&#x27;s customer care is forcing a US customer to deal with a rude support exec&quot;.<p>Apparently &quot;support exec&quot; is euphemism I hadn&#x27;t heard for support tech, and not an executive position. And &quot;rude&quot; is more of &quot;completely unhelpful&quot;.<p>So yes, this sucks, but I thought something surprising was happening; it&#x27;s not.
chris_wotover 8 years ago
Not sure what happened to the original post, but it can be found here:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.facebook.com&#x2F;Dell&#x2F;posts&#x2F;10206079690990070" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.facebook.com&#x2F;Dell&#x2F;posts&#x2F;10206079690990070</a>