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Florida court demands suspect's iPhone passcode

17 pointsby marklabedzover 8 years ago

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vivekdover 8 years ago
&gt;&quot;We question whether identifying the key which will open the strongbox - such that the key is surrendered - is, in fact, distinct from telling an officer the combination,&quot; wrote Judge Black.<p>Well, the circuit court is right, there really isn&#x27;t much difference between forcing someone to give you a key and forcing someone to give you a password.<p>The article did a really bad job of explaining the legal parts of the argument (as nearly all articles do). The whole key vs combination distinction wasn&#x27;t a part of the Doe vs US. decision, it was actually a part of the dissent (dissent means the opinion of the minority judges which isn&#x27;t really law).<p>The issue here was self-incrimination and self-incrimination only applies to &quot;testimonial evidence&quot;, testimonial evidence that is evidence that communicates some information. If that sounds confusing as hell, that&#x27;s because it is, it&#x27;s an absolutely vague and ridiculous standard that can go any way depending on who looks at it.<p>For example, the Supreme court has at various times decided that being forced to give your name is, and is not a violation of the right against self incrimination(1). It&#x27;s a terrible standard and I think that&#x27;s why it gives room to so much back and forth. In this case, the courts were trying to decide if an i-phone password is &quot;testimonial&quot; as described by the Supreme Court and of course, it can go either way and no one is really sure because the standard doesn&#x27;t make any sense.<p>1. California v. Byers, 402 U.S. 424 (1971) for yes, Pennsylvania v. Muniz, 496 U.S. 582 (1990) for no.
cleover 8 years ago
What would happen if the defendant forgets the passcode, a la Alberto Gonzales?
londons_exploreover 8 years ago
Would this case set a precedent?
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