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Feds may let Playpen child porn suspect go to keep concealing their source code

37 pointsby ghoshover 8 years ago

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jobuover 8 years ago
Essentially this means they&#x27;re willing to let all 135 defendants walk rather than reveal the source code. (IANAL, but I&#x27;m pretty sure that when one of them goes free because of this, it sets a precedent that all defendants can use.)<p>This seems really fishy. The only way it makes sense is if the FBI is doing something massively illegal in that source code, and I can&#x27;t even fathom what that would be. Perhaps there is no source code, and they&#x27;re using NSA tools or other illegal wiretapping methods instead.
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superkuhover 8 years ago
If there were any DA with integrity they&#x27;d drag the agents involved in this to a grand jury to get the evidence and code, then indict them put them on trial as the criminals they are.<p>But it won&#x27;t happen because no DA would ever go prosecute anyone from the FBI unless the orders came from some politically powerful source. Too much risk to their career and of backlash.
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AndrewKemendoover 8 years ago
So the options are:<p>1. Reveal code which will explain the exploit. This would take down the existing ring, but also allow other child-pornographers to patch their systems (probably the politically worst thing possible). It may also reveal publicly controversial investigative methods of the FBI.<p>2. Keep code private and potentially see the existing perps walk. This would preserve the exploit (maybe) for use another day, but might also be a risk to civil liberties.<p>What a mess.
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Nexxxehover 8 years ago
So were they actually caught with anything incriminating, or is the only thing identifying them the IP address that the FBI seemingly obtained through now classified means?<p>Is the TL;DR: They were caught with child porn, but that evidence is inadmissible because the warrant that let the FBI find it relied upon this &quot;NIT&quot;, and the FBI won&#x27;t reveal the NIT?
Mizzaover 8 years ago
A related talk really worth watching: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;media.ccc.de&#x2F;v&#x2F;33c3-8136-stopping_law_enforcement_hacking#video&amp;t=1518" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;media.ccc.de&#x2F;v&#x2F;33c3-8136-stopping_law_enforcement_ha...</a><p>Makes the very solid argument the government hacks are like oilspills.