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Aaron Swartz’s Theory on How to Save the World

224 pointsby ghoshover 8 years ago

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pellaover 8 years ago
&gt;Swartz claimed that the Joker is actually “homo economicus, a supremely rational actor ...<p>arXiv:1103.3257: The Joker effect: cooperation driven by destructive agents (2011)<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;1103.3257" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;1103.3257</a><p>Keywords: public goods, cooperation, destructive agents, cycles<p>Abstract: <i>&quot;Understanding the emergence of cooperation is a central issue in evolutionary game theory. The hardest setup for the attainment of cooperation in a population of individuals is the Public Goods game in which cooperative agents generate a common good at their own expenses, while defectors &quot;free-ride&quot; this good. Eventually this causes the exhaustion of the good, a situation which is bad for everybody. Previous results have shown that introducing reputation, allowing for volunteer participation, punishing defectors, rewarding cooperators or structuring agents, can enhance cooperation. Here we present a model which shows how the introduction of rare, malicious agents -that we term jokers- performing just destructive actions on the other agents induce bursts of cooperation. The appearance of jokers promotes a rock-paper-scissors dynamics, where jokers outbeat defectors and cooperators outperform jokers, which are subsequently invaded by defectors. Thus, paradoxically, the existence of destructive agents acting indiscriminately promotes cooperation.&quot;</i>
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pieter1976over 8 years ago
I have never understood the raising up of Aaron Swartz to demi-god status by this community. It is tragic that he took his own life and I fully expect to be downvoted here for expressing this opinion as it is a thing you can&#x27;t say here (<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.paulgraham.com&#x2F;say.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.paulgraham.com&#x2F;say.html</a>).
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allenleeinover 8 years ago
First: free information<p>Quotes from Aaron Swartz:<p>Information is power. But like all power, there are those who want to keep it for themselves. The world&#x27;s entire scientific and cultural heritage, published over centuries in books and journals, is increasingly being digitized and locked up by a handful of private corporations. Want to read the papers featuring the most famous results of the sciences? You&#x27;ll need to send enormous amounts to publishers like Reed Elsevier.<p>From:<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.org&#x2F;stream&#x2F;GuerillaOpenAccessManifesto&#x2F;Goamjuly2008_djvu.txt" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.org&#x2F;stream&#x2F;GuerillaOpenAccessManifesto&#x2F;Goamj...</a>
nickpsecurityover 8 years ago
Aaron Swartz seemed to not know how the world actually worked. It isn&#x27;t a bunch of rational actors that love tech and information. Quite the opposite. One can&#x27;t save the world without first diving deep into how it works. One then realizes there&#x27;s stuff they can and can&#x27;t change on top of lots of biases and trends in responses. Then, one builds on those elements of human nature to focus on the things they can change.<p>He didn&#x27;t do that. Instead, he focused on what can&#x27;t be changed by committing an illegal act with hope it would be meaningful to society or courts. The result was that he killed himself after that failed catastrophically. We might learn a great deal from Aaron Swarts but not how to change the world. He&#x27;s the least qualified to tell us about that because it appears he never understood it to begin with.<p>Instead, we can just learn from and remember the good things he did that his mind was uniquely capable of doing. He has quite a resume of that. This approach is honest and gives him due credit.
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jokoonover 8 years ago
Sounds like electing Trump is one of those &quot;out-corrupt the corrupters&quot; strategies.<p>Not sure if I&#x27;m right.<p>EDIT: anyway I don&#x27;t really agree with those theories, I would not base my political science out of comics, but I found the similarity odd.
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tps5over 8 years ago
The argument about &quot;the Joker being the hero&quot; reminds me of a Borges short story, &quot;Three versions of Judas.&quot;<p>In the story, Borges recounts a (fictional) theologian&#x27;s slow realization that, in the New Testament story, it was Judas rather than Jesus who made the greatest sacrifice. Following this argument, this theologian eventually comes to the conclusion that Judas was the incarnation of God, not Jesus. Without Judas, he argues, the redemption of Man could not have occurred.<p>Unsurprisingly, the Church doesn&#x27;t like this version of the story and Borges&#x27; fictional theologian dies in anonymity.
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digi_owlover 8 years ago
That has to be the single most weird take on the Joker character in ages...<p>BTW, homo economicus is the single most dangerous concept that has come out of the &quot;science&quot; of economics.
ommunistover 8 years ago
Actually modern developments technically allow bot activism. If a legal bot can resolve your legal case, or (legalrobot for instance) can review your contract, why not to give bots power to represent your points and tirelessly petition?
aaron-leboover 8 years ago
I don&#x27;t know anything about the guy other than having used Infogami (underrated) and followed early Reddit, but Swartz was always a brilliant but troubled guy. He was very intelligent but also just a kid, figuring things out in his own life while the tech world figured itself out. What happened to him was a tragedy, but Swartz engaged in illegal activity and found out his opponent was a lot more committed and effective than he anticipated. Unless he became Mandela in prison that wasn&#x27;t an effective strategy.<p><i>In his essay, Swartz strongly supported the Joker’s policy platform. Although the Joker presents himself to the world as a deranged and murderous clown, Swartz claimed that the Joker is actually “homo economicus,” a supremely rational actor, the character who best understands both the problems facing Gotham City and the best solutions to those problems. Batman might have had better gear and Harvey Dent might have had the public’s sympathy—but the Joker understood game theory, the best weapon of all.</i><p><i>Though the Joker’s methods—such as burning large piles of money and blowing up hospitals—might have been controversial, the logic behind them was sound. “And the crazy thing is that it works!” Swartz enthused. Not only did the Joker end up ridding the city of organized crime, he convinced Gotham’s residents to re-evaluate their world and their roles in it. “The movie concludes by emphasizing that Batman must become the villain,” Swartz wrote, “but as usual it never stops to notice that the Joker is actually the hero.”</i><p>This is absurd (at least how it is portrayed by the author). In Nolan&#x27;s movie the Joker is never portrayed as anything but a contradictory psycopath who engages in torture killings and according to his own words has no plans. He&#x27;s a &quot;dog chasing cars&quot;, even if that behavior was still rational. What solution did the Joker have again? The author closes with it, as though it&#x27;s profound, but it&#x27;s really just a screwed up view of justice that isn&#x27;t even supported by the movie.<p><i>In his working paper, Swartz described his new plan for the future of activism. Rather than form a political action group focused on one single issue or tactic, Swartz proposed that organizers should assemble groups of people supremely competent in certain relevant disciplines — investigators, activists, lawyers, lobbyists, policy experts, political strategists, journalists, and publicists — who could combine their efforts and advocate effectively for any issue, big or small. Swartz envisioned a flexible, intelligent, multifaceted task force that would learn from its mistakes and refine its tactics accordingly: a team of specialists that, cumulatively, worked as generalists.</i><p>From a practical standpoint, this is interesting, though it sounds ripe for abuse and mob justice. How different is it from Wikileaks or even Anonymous? Isn&#x27;t the problem with such a system is everyone always thinks they are the good guys?<p>Just please stop with the psychohistory and hagiography. Stop trying to say what Swartz was thinking (the author does this throughout). You don&#x27;t know. If you want to compete with reality you have to be realistic. Stop using his persona to support vague notions of how the world works.
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