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Welcome Chris Lattner

879 pointsby nil_is_meover 8 years ago

32 comments

abaloneover 8 years ago
What&#x27;s really interesting about this is not just that Lattner is brilliant and liked, but that is highlights just how critical <i>software correctness and reliability</i> is to autonomous vehicles. Naively one might have expected some machine learning expert to take over the reins at Tesla. But fast-moving Silicon Valley needs a fundamental shift in quality standards when it comes to safety-critical software, and if you look closely, Lattner has been leading this charge at the language and compiler level.<p>His work has been distinguished by the melding of language <i>safety</i>, <i>reliability</i> and <i>clarity</i>, that is, not merely having sophisticated constructs that help the guarantee correctness, but also making code simple, beautiful and easy to read. Ultimately writing safe code depends on the ability of the programmer to comprehend it, so creating a programming environment that&#x27;s successful on all fronts is a foundational achievement.<p>A notable example: LLVM enabled ARC, a beautifully simple approach to memory management that removed much (not all) of the need for the developer to implement details in code, while providing high efficiency and, perhaps even more importantly, predictable performance (no garbage collection pauses). These are all essential for safety-critical realtime software.
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naaaaakover 8 years ago
Apple has a car project. Autopilot must be one of its core features. But Apple would not create a VP-level position for Autopilot or any one feature for any of their products (even if they it called something else for secrecy&#x2F;generalization reasons).<p>This move increases his compensation and clout. Post-Tesla, he&#x27;ll only have VP or founder titles elsewhere, never anything lower-level (unless he gets his old job back). The change must be welcoming, too.<p>That Apple could not retain him speaks volumes of the company they&#x27;ve become. They&#x27;re a conglomerate at the intersection of tech and fashion. Groundbreaking engineering is not always given its proper due (or compensation) because there&#x27;s only so many seats at the table. They&#x27;ve become rigidly corporate and not particularly inspiring.<p>Good luck to him, and good job taking a chance. Working for someone with a vision other than &quot;thin&quot; must be a welcoming change.
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mrkdover 8 years ago
Elon Musk is the new Steve Jobs.<p>He is an inspirational leader and talented people want to work with him. It appears it will be harder and harder to attract and keep talent at Apple with out a leader like Steve Jobs.
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carlosdpover 8 years ago
Wow, that was unexpected. Great hire by Tesla. Interesting move from compiler development to driving AI, though I guess for the VP position, his experience in managing those teams is much more important.
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n00b101over 8 years ago
Chris Lattner : Tesla :: Bjarne Stroustrup : Morgan Stanley [1]<p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.morganstanley.com&#x2F;profiles&#x2F;bjarne-stroustrup-managing-director-technology" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.morganstanley.com&#x2F;profiles&#x2F;bjarne-stroustrup-mana...</a>
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gtrubetskoyover 8 years ago
There&#x27;s got to be more to this story. You don&#x27;t spend years developing a language (Swift) as culmination of previous work (LLVM) and then abandon it for a job in a relatively new and different discipline. It doesn&#x27;t make much sense to me.
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freshyillover 8 years ago
Well, mystery solved.<p>Now, the new mystery: What does this mean for Apple&#x27;s car project?<p>Yes, I realize he probably didn&#x27;t have much (or anything) to do with it (whatever it really even is). There are going to be some batshit crazy theories though, and I can&#x27;t wait to see how this affects Apple&#x27;s stock price.
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jaegerpickerover 8 years ago
So I kinda what to be Chris Lattner when I grow up. :) LLVM, Swift, and Autopiloting cars is a hell of a run.
salimmadjdover 8 years ago
I&#x27;ve met Chris and he is one of the nicest and humblest guy you can imagine. I&#x27;m not betting on him lasting in Tesla for more than 12 months. I think there will be a cultural conflict.
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eddangerover 8 years ago
This is very exciting for the future of Autopilot. I thought it was amazing already. I can&#x27;t wait to see what they have in store.
sudeepjover 8 years ago
Being a Rust-lang fan, I would have loved to see him join the rust-lang group (which I am not a part of). I thought there might be a chance of this after I saw the post of him leaving Apple.
dbg31415over 8 years ago
Top two stories right now are about people leaving Apple... I don&#x27;t think that bodes well for Apple.
zubairqover 8 years ago
I always liked that Chris Lattner pubicly acknowledged Light Table as the inspiration for SWIFT Playgrounds: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nondot.org&#x2F;sabre&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nondot.org&#x2F;sabre&#x2F;</a> Now, of course their new project is Eve
alpbover 8 years ago
Obviously, also related from the home page right now: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=13366542" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=13366542</a>
breatheoftenover 8 years ago
(wish) Maybe he&#x27;s being hired to make enhancements to swift&#x2F;llvm for numerically intensive computation? It would be awesome to see a pure-swift version of something like tensor-flow and all the compiler machinery to make it fast!
shmerlover 8 years ago
What languages are used by Tesla for developing autopilot software?
ChuckMcMover 8 years ago
Way to go Chris! It has to be pretty awesome when the CEO tweets and blogs that you&#x27;re joining the team. No pressure!
reacharavindhover 8 years ago
Interesting twist : Apple buys Tesla and elevates Elon to the missing role of Steve Jobs. Wouldn&#x27;t it be nice...
gmosxover 8 years ago
It&#x27;s quite interesting that there is no public comment from any other member of the Swift Core Team.
twstedover 8 years ago
Yesterday reading &quot;Update on the Swift Project Lead&quot; I was going to comment &quot;He will go to Tesla&quot;.<p>Pure lucky, but my reasoning was that it is difficult for a compiler (etc) engineer like him to find a better job than the one he was doing at Apple: developers&#x27; tools, compiler infrastructure, a new programming language, Coding playground and so on.
72deluxeover 8 years ago
Argh who&#x27;s in charge of Xcode and Swift at Apple now????
zankoover 8 years ago
Recording the conversation and filmed
gigatexalover 8 years ago
Wow! My faith in autopilot just increased.
withparadox2over 8 years ago
I doubt that this is a right decision.
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Scudsover 8 years ago
Congrats from us CS @ UIUC peeps!
camus2over 8 years ago
That was quick! Congrats.
mozumderover 8 years ago
Did not see that coming...
yborgover 8 years ago
Maybe Tesla is the Apple Graveyard now.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;venturebeat.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;10&#x2F;08&#x2F;elon-musk-if-you-dont-make-it-at-tesla-you-go-work-at-apple&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;venturebeat.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;10&#x2F;08&#x2F;elon-musk-if-you-dont-make...</a>
kelvin0over 8 years ago
Yeah, I would work for Tesla in a heartbeat (or SpaceX, or Solar City or any of the Mega Factories). Well it&#x27;s back to Access programming for me ... :(
tbrockover 8 years ago
Good for him.<p>This is awful though. People can&#x27;t really think spending time on autopilot for rich people sports cars is more important than the LLVM compiler infrastructure.<p>Give me a break!<p>Even if tesla invents cool new batteries and changes the way we think about power all of that stuff still has to run on software, that the compiler infrastructure depends on...
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DoodleBuggyover 8 years ago
I guess CarPlay or &quot;Project Titan&quot; just wasn&#x27;t as interesting?
megablastover 8 years ago
I hate it when big companies buy other, smaller entities, and hope they don&#x27;t interfere and change them too much.<p>But seriously, exciting news for Tesla.
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