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Ask HN: Is Google adwords totally useless?

13 pointsby teddyukover 8 years ago
I started a small campaign on AdWords, £10 down, 8 clicks so really small numbers I had a look at them and found:<p>-2 were from sites that were really spammy and had no actual adverts so I don&#x27;t know how they referred to my site -2 were from sites that had zero relevance to my keywords -4 were from sites that didn&#x27;t exist<p>Is this what other people see? I know the numbers are low but why pay for crap? Or am I missing something??

7 comments

Gustomaximusover 8 years ago
Heavy headline. There is reason companies spend ~$70 billion on Adwords annually. So yes you are missing something.<p>Sounds like you may have been doing display not search. I&#x27;d avoid this until you learn more about campaign setup. Search side is easier&#x2F;safer. Display can have better returns but is harder to achieve.<p>If you really want to advertise I say get a few thousand $$ together and get someone who knows what they are doing to have a crack.
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GFischerover 8 years ago
As other posters have said, you really have to know how to set up a campaign, what keywords to use, how to target, the difference between search and display, etcetera.<p>There are all kinds of people delivering services if you want to run a real campaign.<p>I ran a 100 dollar campaign for a university project, it was an interesting learning experience, but it also taught me that for any real campaigns I&#x27;d be better off hiring an expert - and they come at all sizes and prices, from independant contractors up to the biggest marketing companies in the world.<p>In my own sample campaign we did get a lot of noise, and a very low click-through rate. We calculated a cost per customer of U$ 8.
cruciniover 8 years ago
It sounds like you&#x27;ve barely scratched the surface. I&#x27;m no expert, but there&#x27;s a lot to know in order to get good value from adwords. For starters google &quot;google keyword research&quot;. Any keyword which is too popular with advertisers should have too high a price per click, so it can never be profitable. So the art is too build around undervalued keywords. I have no firsthand experience with that.<p>10L&#x2F;8 clicks = 1.20L&#x2F;click. If we assume 1% net conversion rate (strawman number), your customer acquisition cost is about 120L. Is the customer ltv high enough to justify this?
sharemywinover 8 years ago
I don&#x27;t use partner sites just google.com to start with. Also, get rid of tablet and mobile traffic at first. If I can get that working I go from there. Also, it&#x27;s pretty expensive traffic.
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SerLavaover 8 years ago
AdWords isn&#x27;t useless, but it&#x27;s pretty overpriced. Which can often mean it&#x27;s useless.<p>The big players run AdWords campaigns like... you know, ads. They cost money. Then you sell those new customers more shit down the road. Requires complicated analytics and customer tracking. A lot of people are just in it for the big data.<p>It&#x27;s not supposed to be a slot machine. But Google isn&#x27;t arguing with you if you want to treat it like a slot machine.
teddyukover 8 years ago
Also I constantly aced their support and they said they would call me after 30 minutes over 12 hours and nothing
guytpearson1over 8 years ago
Is this a serious post?<p>I make a great living off Adwords. God bless it.