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Ask HN: Is there an HN for optimists?

42 pointsby RKoutnikover 8 years ago
The last few months have been pretty rough for us liberal optimists. HN used to be a solace for me where I can read about the folks building the future &amp; get inspired. I&#x27;m tired of the endless semantic bickering and want to dwell someplace where taking risks is valued above never failing.<p>Is there still somewhere like that on our great internets? Contact info is in my profile if you&#x27;re not comfortable sharing details publicly.<p>EDIT: I couldn&#x27;t ask for a more perfect juxtaposition :D<p>https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;rkoutnik&#x2F;status&#x2F;820284756315226112

11 comments

charlesismover 8 years ago
HackerNews was much more optimistic only three or four years back. It used to be full of posts about &quot;smart toothpicks disrupting the dental industry&quot; etc. I found it a little nauseating.<p>The last few years, for some reason, the tone here seems to be a bit more jaded.<p>I love HN the way it <i>currently</i> is. People here are polite and sane, but there is enough skepticism that the site is no longer full of ridiculous garbage.<p>99% of the internet is content to work itself up over press releases, hype, and shoddy reporting. HN is the one site I go to where people have level heads.
natchover 8 years ago
Not sure if it&#x27;s too meta to comment on whether true optimism can draw on constructive negativity as one of its mechanisms for self reinforcement, but here goes...<p>Sometimes feedback that points out problems is misinterpreted.<p>I find that when presented with a new idea (either from outside, or it could be my own brain coming up with it) my first inclination is to ask: OK, what obstacles do we have to tackle to make this real? Those obstacles represent a todo list of steps. Looked at one way, they can seem negative. Looked at another way, they can seem like the fundamental tools of a true optimist.<p>(What do I mean by &quot;true&quot; optimist? I mean someone who views possibilities in a pragmatic way and wants to figure out how things can happen despite obstacles, rather than just hoping the problems will vanish.)<p>On HN, the new ideas (and recycled ones) flow fast and furious. As does the negative feedback. And also some gratuitous negativity, unfortunately, as you point out.<p>I hope you find what you are looking for. In the meantime I find HN to still be pretty decent.
jswrennover 8 years ago
Lobsters (<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;lobste.rs" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;lobste.rs</a>) is much lower volume than HN, but it&#x27;s a community I&#x27;m glad to be a part of, nonetheless. The comments tend to be far more positive than they are here on HN.<p>I&#x27;ve sent you an invite!<p>Edit: added missing &#x27;e&#x27; to URL.
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achariamover 8 years ago
I&#x27;ve been feeling the same way for the past several months. So I decided to build a community that reflects that. Just started inviting a few friends and co-workers to a private beta. There&#x27;s a little more info over at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.elyxel.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.elyxel.com</a>
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rcavezzaover 8 years ago
Happier might be the closest thing that currently exists: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.happier.com&#x2F;app&#x2F;community" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.happier.com&#x2F;app&#x2F;community</a>
tyingqover 8 years ago
Your own comment history has plenty of criticism in it. Not unwarranted criticism (from the few I read), but certainly not exclusively inspirational&#x2F;optimistic replies.<p>Trying not to be too cynical, but it looks like you&#x27;re really looking for a community of exclusively like minded peers vs optimism. Not sure how you do that across a broad space of topics.
RodericDayover 8 years ago
I am exactly the opposite. I am jaded and cynical despise when people engage in what some people derisively call &#x27;techno-utopianism&#x27;.<p>As such, I think maybe you would enjoy reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;futurism.
chmod775over 8 years ago
Are you sure it is wise to surround yourself with people who explicitly share the same views as opposed to a more diverse community?<p>The term echo chamber springs to mind.
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PaulHouleover 8 years ago
Tip o&#x27;Niell liberal or The Economist liberal?
mannykannotover 8 years ago
It would never work.
Jdamover 8 years ago
Just filter HN by posts about Rust and you&#x27;ll only find optimism&#x2F;fanboism.
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