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Shocking Poor Security at the Social Security Administration

54 pointsby watchdogtimerover 8 years ago

7 comments

patio11over 8 years ago
They also have more than 60 million lines of COBOL in production.<p>Cite: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;oig.ssa.gov&#x2F;sites&#x2F;default&#x2F;files&#x2F;audit&#x2F;full&#x2F;pdf&#x2F;A-14-11-11132_0.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;oig.ssa.gov&#x2F;sites&#x2F;default&#x2F;files&#x2F;audit&#x2F;full&#x2F;pdf&#x2F;A-14-1...</a>
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GICodeWarriorover 8 years ago
What login rate-limiting, account lock-out, and password expiry policies do they have though?<p>Based on the password requirements, they have something like 2.6 trillion possible passwords. If your account is locked out after 3 failed login attempts, if they limit to one attempt per second, or if they have a forced password change every month, etc. there are a number of ways to tighten this up.<p>Their password policy is anachronistic, and this &#x2F;could&#x2F; be a symptom of other issues. However by itself, it seems more like a usability issue than a security issue.<p>In fact, they could be attempting to discourage password reuse with other sites. That would be a security bonus if it worked (I doubt it works).
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RichardHeartover 8 years ago
This sounds like someone tazering a guard at the SSA. *shockingly<p>If you&#x27;re mad about 8 char mandatory case insensitive password rules maybe leaking data, you&#x27;ll probably be super mad when they just lose the whole db on their end to hacks. Perhaps they should code a 2fa option through one of the many useful api&#x27;s, as so many other companies have.
tomschlickover 8 years ago
This is why the government desperately needs to keep 18F&#x2F;US Digital Service so they can keep modernizing these sites.
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tomohawkover 8 years ago
What else would you expect? They can&#x27;t go out of business. They are so sacred that they appear immune to any sort of political reform. There&#x27;s no chance of anyone getting fired for keeping things as they are. To change things would paradoxically be more risky.
loopbackerover 8 years ago
Some banks do this too. They store the password in the clear then at login ask for the Nth character of your password (rather than the whole password).<p>That obviously means that the whole password is rarely sent over the network. It also means that they can use the same validation system over the phone for telephone banking.<p>The system is however far from ideal of course.
coldcodeover 8 years ago
Bad security no longer shocks me at all.