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Changing San Francisco is foreseen as a haven for wealthy and childless (1981)

212 pointsby rotskoffover 8 years ago

14 comments

elastic_churchover 8 years ago
I looked at housing prices in SF going back to 1920, and the year over year increases are still in line with the annual increases we see today.<p>All the rhetoric and oddly empowering blame game to the tech industry (at least for us tech people) is merely trendy.<p>The only thing that stopped keeping up are salary increases.
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alanhover 8 years ago
I think sometimes there is a meme that if it&#x27;s been said before, that’s proof that the complaint or worry is baseless and hysterical.<p>But this isn’t so.<p>Just because it&#x27;s been said before doesn&#x27;t make it untrue. San Francisco is in fact not an easy or great place for those with children but not wealth.
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huangc10over 8 years ago
&gt; Soaring housing costs, urban violence, shifting ethnic patterns and an increase in childless adults living together may be turning San Francisco, which the Chamber of Commerce likes to call &#x27;&#x27;everybody&#x27;s favorite city,&#x27;&#x27; into a haven for the young, the old, the wealthy and the childless.<p>Love reading posts of old articles from the 80s and 90s. It&#x27;s like nothing much has changed over the past 30 or so years. Except the average housing price has gone up from ~$100,000 to ~$1,000,000 (you know, cuz of inflation and stuff...)
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skolosover 8 years ago
Interesting bit:<p>&gt;in 1970 the number of Hispanics was arrived at by a computer model that listed everyone with a Spanish surname as Hispanic<p>because census in 1970 did not allow differentiation Hispanics. It also probably means that decrease in whites from 70&#x27;s to 80&#x27;s is overstated.
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memoryfab_comover 8 years ago
NYtimes writing news about SF as a haven for wealthy and childless is like SFchronicles writing about NY as haven for wealthy and carless.
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dominotwover 8 years ago
What is the a good city now for mid-income childless ? More fun activities, concerts ect and low taxes that go to roads and public transport and not schools, parks and libraries.
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sctbover 8 years ago
Relevant recent discussion: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=13453644" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=13453644</a>
maplebedover 8 years ago
Nice to see that 36 years later they&#x27;re writing the same thing. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;01&#x2F;21&#x2F;us&#x2F;san-francisco-children.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;01&#x2F;21&#x2F;us&#x2F;san-francisco-children...</a> &quot;San Francisco Asks: Where Have All the Children Gone?&quot;
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BadassFractalover 8 years ago
Cause I&#x27;m praying for rain And I&#x27;m praying for tidal waves I wanna see the ground give way. I wanna watch it all go down. Mom, please flush it all away. I wanna see it go right in and down. I wanna watch it go right in. Watch you flush it all away.<p>Originally meant for LA, but oddly applicable.
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swagv1over 8 years ago
It&#x27;s funny how people think this crap was just invented in the past 10 years in SF.
cwsmith17over 8 years ago
I work as an housing activist in SF. If you want to get more involved, shoot me an email and we&#x27;ll get coffee. Cwsmith17@gmail.com
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jamespittsover 8 years ago
How do we get people to change something ominous yet moves slowly across generations? We&#x27;re all afflicted with a short attention span and plenty of day-to-day problems, and we elect leaders to deal with the here and now.<p>This issue affects so many wicked problems, including how social systems respond to human-made environmental devastation.<p>Thankfully there are some leaders who will do the hard thing.
vonnikover 8 years ago
and then this piece lands: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;01&#x2F;21&#x2F;us&#x2F;san-francisco-children.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;01&#x2F;21&#x2F;us&#x2F;san-francisco-children...</a>
theptipover 8 years ago
Plus ça change, plus c&#x27;est la même chose.