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Chronic sleep deprivation suppresses immune system

277 pointsby upenover 8 years ago

14 comments

3principover 8 years ago
I used to like to sleep for as long as possible, then slowly it began to feel like a waste of time.<p>Also, having small children affect sleep although not directly, it&#x27;s the time you try to claw back after putting them to sleep, pushing it a little later to get other things done.<p>After a while it became obvious nothing much was being achieved this way, in fact my mental acuity seemed to drop substantially.<p>Then I realized I hadn&#x27;t been dreaming (or at least remembering dreams) for a while and that was weird. Slowed down, went to bed as soon as tiredness kicked in for a few months. Improved my diet which probably helped a lot.<p>Dreams have returned with a vengence, it feels like all night is one long dream, I feel better and sharper.<p>I wish I could sleep less than 7 hours, but my body disagrees.
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temp246810over 8 years ago
I hope to see more and more of these studies.<p>I&#x27;ve always since I can remember struggled with sleep.<p>During the periods where I&#x27;ve had it under control everything is just better: your outlook is more positive, more energy, less anxiety, and on and on and on.<p>People say exercise should be put into a pill - I really wish they did this with sleep.
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nine_kover 8 years ago
I wish having healthy sleep became vogue. Imagine people humble-bragging about the quality of their dreams, about sleeping 8 hours or more, having enough self-discipline to routinely go to bed by 10:30pm, etc. Imagine sleep, it&#x27;s quality, the freshness of body and mind it gives, became a subject of conspicuous consumption, a symbol of higher status. &quot;I work smarter, not harder&quot;, etc.<p>Dies not sound implausible to me.
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Mzover 8 years ago
I like seeing this, but: &quot;Correlation does not prove causation.&quot;<p>I have a serious, incurable medical condition. Getting healthier has dramatically improved my ability to sleep. So, while lack of sleep may well cause health problems, that relationship can run the other direction. I see nothing in this piece which addresses that possibility.
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tbrownawover 8 years ago
It&#x27;s always interesting to see things that everyone knows, turn out to be things that we don&#x27;t <i>actually</i> formally know yet.
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Mc_Big_Gover 8 years ago
I keep telling people it&#x27;s making them sick to only sleep 4 hours a night and they keep telling me that &quot;It&#x27;s just how I am&quot;. No, it&#x27;s not. It&#x27;s how you&#x27;ve forced your body to behave after years of staying up too late and drinking coffee too late and drinking alcohol and not caring about sleep. It&#x27;s not normal. It&#x27;s not &quot;how you are&quot;. You&#x27;re not &quot;totally fine&quot; on 4 hours of sleep. You are fooling yourself.
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corybrownover 8 years ago
Nice to see a well done twin study here, but I&#x27;m guessing this was conventional wisdom for most.
overcastover 8 years ago
Sorry, but, this required a new study? Sleep is the most consistent way of preventing, and curing ailments. At even the slightest hint of feeling run down, I&#x27;ll go to bed extra early.
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princetontigerover 8 years ago
I sleep 8 hours and wake up automatically. If I get 6 or less, it feels like a bus hit me.
Lxrover 8 years ago
The article does not mention if they actually showed causality. What if there is a third variable (coffee, acquired virus, anxiety, lack of exercise) that simultaneously causes lack of sleep and a depressed immune system? The cause could even be the other way around - I know I don&#x27;t sleep well when I&#x27;m feeling sick.
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ge96over 8 years ago
ha I could attest to that.<p>I also used to experience those sleep-paralysis events Jesus those were terrifying. Thankfully I have not had that in a long time.<p>But yeah, sleep is good. My body feels sore all over when not sleeping for a long time, get sick easier, can&#x27;t even watch tv or do anything, you just hate yourself hahaha or briefly go delirious then go back to hating your current situation, can&#x27;t enjoy anything.
GotAnyMegadethover 8 years ago
Anecdote: I used to sleep about 8 hours a day, but then had a long period of anxiety and depression that caused me to average about 4 hours sleep a day. This lasted for about 9 months, maybe more. During this time my brain was on constant overdrive, thinking about everything all the time, for most of that time I didn&#x27;t notice any loss in alertness or clarity. I was particularly anxious about my friends and was out seeing different friends about 13 nights a fortnight. I was probably getting drunk about 3 nights a week. When I get depressed I don&#x27;t really eat much, and I lost about 17% of my body weight. It was terrible, but in all this time I never got ill at all, not even a mild cold or cough. I missed the whole of winter 2015&#x2F;2016 cold season, and I&#x27;ve got ill at least twice a year in winter for as long as I can remember. I am even ill now!<p>I was speculating the other day with a friend as to why this might be. I suggested that because I wasn&#x27;t looking after my house I was pretty much sleeping in mould and I have heard anecdotally that that can have antibiotics that may have had an affect. He suggested that in extreme stress your body is less likely to overreact to a mild infection, and so maybe any infections may have much less obvious symptoms.<p>I&#x27;m pretty much better now and am attempting to sleep 7h30 a day, but it really does feel like a waste of time.
EternalDataover 8 years ago
It&#x27;s fascinating to think of a counterfactual world where humans don&#x27;t need sleep -- sometimes I wonder how much more could be done. Sleep seems to be a biological constraint that could be optimized around.
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imcoconutover 8 years ago
gotta get good sleep.