Bryan Cantrill posted his thoughts on the CNCF's decision to donate RethinkDB to The Linux Foundation here: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13579544" rel="nofollow">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13579544</a><p>We wanted to share RethinkDB's next steps in our new home with The Linux Foundation.<p>We've also had a lot of folks ask if they can donate to support the project. Stripe has generously offered to match up to $25k in donations (which will help fund server costs and future development.) You can learn how to contribute to the project with OSS contributions or donations here: <a href="https://rethinkdb.com/contribute" rel="nofollow">https://rethinkdb.com/contribute</a>
I stayed away from Rethink in the past few years due to its uncertain future. Now I'm seriously interested. Looking forward to the next chapter of RethinkDB.
The team behind RethinkDB has been a class act. Thank you for creating a fantastic product and doing what's right by your users even as you were winding down.
I've always been fond of Rethinkdb, but never actually used it. Perhaps if I came across pragmatic examples of how to do x with y, like you typically see with Redis, I could have convinced my team/s otherwise.<p>One of the aspects of Rethinkdb I admire most is the tooling. I find myself often trying out something new with React, Postgres, ASP.NET Core, Elm, Go, Kotlin or what not and biasing my experience getting started with preference to use.<p>I recond Rethink as Pied Piper in Silicon Valley; a great product ultimately being misunderstood. I'm relieved to hear Rethinkdb will live on under the Linux Foundation (and applaud them for doing so) and earnestly hope it re-establishes itself in a niche, such as that of Firebase/Parse, with partnerships and a legacy to rival that of Postgres one day.
The news in the article is that CNCF spent good money to wipe out a copyleft license. They think history has shown a more permissive license without copyleft or a patent grab (just a patent <i>notice</i>) - namely ASLv2 - is a far superior choice and paid to get that in place. Their very recent explanation is well worth reading:
<a href="https://www.cncf.io/blog/2017/02/01/cncf-recommends-aslv2" rel="nofollow">https://www.cncf.io/blog/2017/02/01/cncf-recommends-aslv2</a><p>I'll explain what I mean by patent notice since those are my words, quick version: If you don't declare that you have patent rights affecting a portion of code you have contributed, you've given those patent rights.
ironic that this will be the move that actually propels rethinkdb...<p>it's my feeling that <i>software licensing</i> day's are over for the little guys. If you are Oracle or Microsoft and have that brand recognition great.<p>Coupled with commoditization of developers, I think it'd be great if we had a kickstarter site where you could request a commercial project to be open-sourced, pitch in some money to support the developer.<p>For instance if somebody released an open source version of Hootsuite I think that would put a severe dent in Vancouver's tech scene-Hootsuite customers wouldn't even think twice about switching to a zero cost solution, as it's not a pain killer but a vitamin. Free vitamin is always better than an expensive one. Pain killers on the other hand are less flexible because it's an emotional buy.
Honestly what needs to happen next is a serious effort to explain why or when rethink is better than mongo, cassandra, arango, aerospike, memsql, mysql, riak, or postgres, ++, not to mention all the TSDBs. On the event pushes I am unconvinced that message queues/computation graphs arent superior and that's another crowded space. When I last looked at it the advantages struck me as mostly incremental on the query language and decremental on performance. There are many excellent competitors in this space, most of which are well funded, and moving targets. Rethink doesn't seem to have a USP, or none that has been effectively communicated at least, IMO.
Linux foundation are collecting quite a lot "failed" projects and turn them to gold these days? I sometimes feel it is acting like a software goodwill store partially. Whatever that is, hope RethinkDB will do well in the future.
Sorry if this should be obvious but what is/are the killer feature/s of RethinkDB, what differentiates it from something like Redis or even CockroachDB?
I wish some company (apart from compose.io) would create a RethinkDB as a service (DBaaS).<p>I would totally love a dynamodb or firebase kind of payment structure!<p>I specifically excluded compose not because their service is not great (from what I've heard - it's excellent) but more so because they charge a premium for it.
My weird and unrelated question is: if I donate software to an open source group like the Linux Foundation, can I write it off my taxes? And if so, how do I assess the value of it? RethinkDB probably has some legitimate market value...can the founders reflect that on their taxes?
I had a question about this passage:<p>"The company behind RethinkDB shut down last year after struggling to build a sustainable business around the product. Many former RethinkDB employees currently work for Stripe, where they help build infrastructure for developers around the world."<p>Is Stripe a big RethinkDB shop or is there another connection between the two?
Any news about the future of horizon?<p>I played with rethinkdb and horizon and it looked like the the way to go to me.<p>When you see that with a few easy lines of code, any change in state in the browser of your computer it's updated in the browser of your mobile, without practically doing anything in the server, it feels like the future.
I just donated. Thanks to the original RethinkDB team for your amazing efforts... I meetup with Michael Glukhovsky briefly over coffee here in SF and was immensely impressed then, and I am still immensely impressed now.<p>Fantastic to hear RethinkDB lives on. Long live RethinkDB. ;-)
Is this one of the first companies that has made the transition from business to fully open-source? If so this could set an interesting president for others to follow suite under similar circumstances.
This is great news! Rethink is NoSql DB done properly, I know many others such as Cassandra often get mentioned as alternatives to Mongo but they aren't really.<p>I just hope the rigor and correctness that have characterized RethinkDB continue moving forward as a community project. Part of me feels sad it never caught on and will never be a commercial success like Mongo, but that's in the past.<p>Horizon is another exciting project I hope gets traction.
I'm not too familiar with RethinkDB. Can someone explain why it's so popular on HN? The wiki page shows that it's not that popular overall and the comparison to other DBs makes it sound pretty bad.[1]<p>1. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RethinkDB" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RethinkDB</a>