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It’s about 50°F warmer than normal near the North Pole again

116 pointsby ramonvillasanteover 8 years ago

10 comments

acqqover 8 years ago
There are no graphs in the article to give you the whole context, that is, the longer-term measured climate changes. For that it helps looking at the yearly averages:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tamino.wordpress.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;01&#x2F;18&#x2F;global-temperature-the-big-3&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tamino.wordpress.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;01&#x2F;18&#x2F;global-temperature-t...</a><p>These are averages over the whole year. The graph to consider specifically for Arctic is this one:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tamino.files.wordpress.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;01&#x2F;arctic.jpg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tamino.files.wordpress.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;01&#x2F;arctic.jpg</a>
kingkawnover 8 years ago
if the right wing is correct and these climate shifts are not due to our present efforts then the problem is far worse than if it were the result of pollution, and the effort to counter-balance the environmental shift will require much more social and economic adjustment.
coldcodeover 8 years ago
The real question is not just about debating what is causing a rise in average temperature over the past half century, but whether there is anything we can do to change it. Deniers say people are not to blame so do nothing; the rest of us say people are the majority cause so change our behavior. The problem is we only have one earth, either we do nothing and all die eventually, or we do something and possibly we don&#x27;t. In the long run the latter seems a far better bet: at worst we have a cleaner environment and a slightly slower economy versus a barren planet filled with roaches.
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ChuckMcMover 8 years ago
I always dislike comments like this from the article: <i>“Something is very, very wrong with the Arctic climate.”</i><p>The climate can&#x27;t be &quot;wrong&quot; it has no agency. The impact of human CO2 production on climate can be &quot;unprecedented&quot; or &quot;destabilizing&quot; or &quot;ill advised&quot; but the word &#x27;wrong&#x27; implies that there is a &#x27;right&#x27; climate. We know that the climate changes on the planet, we emerged as the more annoying form of hominid during an ice age after all. &quot;Something&quot; caused that ice age, and &quot;something&quot; caused it to end, and that something could not possibly have been us. So who is responsible becomes less important in my mind as responding while we can with effective ways to live and prosper under different climates.
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StClaireover 8 years ago
Hit 70 today in Denver.
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gaspoweredcatover 8 years ago
the whole global warming thing seems to be a very contended issue but i think theres one thing we can all agree on, people need to stop using Fahrenheit
pmontraover 8 years ago
That&#x27;s 50 F, 28 C.
Daishimanover 8 years ago
So what&#x27;s the excuse from the denialists today about why we shouldn&#x27;t worry?
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helthanatosover 8 years ago
I&#x27;m loving this winter. It&#x27;s only snowed 3 times and has been below freezing for only a few weeks. In love with this winter, though I&#x27;ve been sick more times this year than quite a while.
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aaron695over 8 years ago
&gt; While this week’s sharp temperature spike resulted from the arrangement of these intense weather systems, scientists say such spikes are probably becoming more frequent and intense. Rising greenhouse-gas concentrations are increasing average temperatures and shrinking Arctic sea ice. Earlier this week, the National Snow and Ice Data Center reported January Arctic sea levels were the lowest on record.<p>This entire paragraph is why people deny global warming.<p>They admit we don&#x27;t know if this is unusual. In fact we know it&#x27;s a normal occurance, just it&#x27;s &#x27;probably&#x27; happening more often yet.... jump to Global Warming.<p>This is not science, this is politics and it&#x27;s why people go hard the other way.
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