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Ask HN: 100% salary and 5-day week or 80% salary and 4-day week?

13 pointsby alando46over 8 years ago
Which would you prefer? (Assume office is closed on 5th day if 4-day week)

14 comments

LeoSolarisover 8 years ago
I prefer three 10-12 hour days for 100% pay.<p>Purely answering the question... The pay, unless you bill by the hour. If you bill hourly and you can comfortably live on 80%, then you can aim for 4 days and flex if needed. It will give you time to work on side projects or just relax.<p>If you&#x27;re salary, then the 4 day &#x27;deal&#x27; is a Faustian bargain. You will be expected to be available for free on the fifth day, and you will rarely ever get it off. That&#x27;s just the nature of business.
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itamarstover 8 years ago
I&#x27;d go with 4 days. My last two jobs have been less than full time (originally 3.5 days a week, right now it&#x27;s more like 4.5 days&#x2F;week), and it&#x27;s pretty great.<p>If anyone wants to do this the key is:<p>1. Have some money in the bank so you&#x27;re nor desperate for a job.<p>2. Have in-demand skills.<p>3. Get some practice negotiating.<p>4. Ideally do this at place you already work, or with consulting client: much easier than negotiating shorter workweek with people who don&#x27;t know you.<p>(If anyone is interested I&#x27;m writing a book on how programmers can get to a sane workweek: reasonable hours, remote work, or even a shorter workweek, though that&#x27;s harder. Initial email course is at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codewithoutrules.com&#x2F;saneworkweek&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codewithoutrules.com&#x2F;saneworkweek&#x2F;</a> until the book is done.)
jp555over 8 years ago
Depends what kind of progressive income tax system you work in. At the end of the day for me, 80% salary wouldn&#x27;t mean much less net income, but that extra free time would be amazing.
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sotojuanover 8 years ago
80% salary assuming my significant other is working either in the same schedule or a 5-day a week now. If not, I&#x27;d still do it but I&#x27;ll probably need to do some budgeting :-)<p>4 days of work and 3 days of rest is, IMO, the perfect balance. You get enough time to rest that you actually look forward to going back to work (if you enjoy it).<p>Most of us do a lot of chores on the weekend that we can&#x27;t do in the weekday because they&#x27;re only open 9-5. A 3 day weekend would give us more time to ourselves.
LifeQuestionerover 8 years ago
I Always go for a paycut and 80% salary. At 26, have never worked a full 5 day job. But I just prefer to have the extra day to actually do things I enjoy, or trying new things(i&#x27;m a learning new things addict) everything from language classes to yoga, to dance, to making it easier to go on longer holidays Friday-Monday, no hassle!
tedmistonover 8 years ago
Depends on the salary and whether it&#x27;s truly a 4-day week or if it&#x27;s really the same workload as a 5-day week.
cauterizedabout 8 years ago
4-day week, no contest. I&#x27;d probably do it for 67% salary, tbh.
patatinoover 8 years ago
I changed to 90% work with 100% salary instead of a pay raise.
psycover 8 years ago
Definitely the latter.<p>However, I&#x27;d also take 50% and a 5-day week, if the team was guaranteed to be as pleasant to work on as the best team I&#x27;ve worked with.
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znpyabout 8 years ago
90% the salay, five days a week, six hours a day.
nstartover 8 years ago
80% salary for 4 days work easily. The value I could find by having one day to do work that makes me feel 100% fulfilled trumps all.
deangibersonover 8 years ago
What do you value more right now? Time or money?
bbcbasicover 8 years ago
I recently changed from 5 to 4 and took the pay cut. It&#x27;s awesome and humane. Especially with young children keeping me busy at weekends. The assumption you stated doesn&#x27;t apply to me though.
dyover 8 years ago
It really depends on if I believed that my fifth day would be mine or would the demands of the work bleed into that day? Similar to 20% time at Google - it&#x27;s easy for your &quot;real&quot; work to take over that time if you don&#x27;t defend it actively and it&#x27;s unlikely that you&#x27;ll be vigilant the whole time.<p>I think in knowledge work - trading off time for salary is generally not a great move because we&#x27;re almost always &quot;on the clock.&quot;
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