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Greg

376 pointsby samaabout 8 years ago

28 comments

capocannoniereabout 8 years ago
&gt; Greg is a world-class recruiter (he plans every detail of interviews, heavily researches candidate’s backgrounds, sends thoughtful and persistent followups, and so on), and I now believe even more strongly that someone on the founding team has to be an amazing recruiter.<p>The early openAI team is clearly superb. What&#x27;s even more impressive to me, is that the quality of the team has remained incredibly strong as the team grew to 45+ people: IMO&#x2F;IOI medalists, startup founders and key contributors, world-class Phd&#x27;s who could easily get tenure-track positions at top universities, etc. [1] [2]<p>It&#x27;s not uncommon for a startup to have a strong founding team. It&#x27;s almost unheard of that just about every single individual of a 45+ person team is objectively exceptional.[3]<p>Not sure how much Greg is still involved in recruiting, but either way, congrats.<p>(No affiliation to OpenAI, besides knowing a few people there)<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;openai.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;team-update-january&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;openai.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;team-update-january&#x2F;</a> [2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;openai.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;team-update-august&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;openai.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;team-update-august&#x2F;</a> [3] I don&#x27;t know any startups in which all of the first 50 employees were truly exceptional prior to them joining the company. I guess Google, for example, might have had an incredibly strong early team, but I&#x27;m not sure they were as strong prior to them joining Google.
dzinkabout 8 years ago
Greg is humble, resourceful, and smart. That combination alone is enough to move mountains. However, what Sam&#x27;s piece is missing is the &quot;Why?&quot;. Why would someone who can do anything do YOUR thing and take any crud task it takes to finish the job, especially after they&#x27;ve made their fortune? Greg should give his own &quot;Why?&quot; about OpenAI. From what I know if 100 years from now someone looks back at this fork in the road of History, they would see two scenarios: Either a couple of big players will own the most powerful instrument in the hands of mankind, to use at their (or their highest bidder&#x27;s) discretion, or mankind will jointly get to ensure the instrument has a safety handle to protect life and all things most important.<p>For the latter, I&#x27;d bet many of the smartest people here would want to do the crud work, even if they&#x27;re not cofounders. The job of the ideal co-founder is to spread a mission that matters this much to everyone who would be fit to achieve it, inspiring all employees to be as committed. Well, OpenAI powered relentlessly by Greg, has inspired thousands of volunteers and open-source contributors in addition to it&#x27;s top-notch staff.
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rl3about 8 years ago
&gt;<i>Greg is a world-class recruiter (he plans every detail of interviews, heavily researches candidate’s backgrounds, sends thoughtful and persistent followups, and so on), and I now believe even more strongly that someone on the founding team has to be an amazing recruiter.</i><p>I maintain a version-controlled text file of people I want to hire for my startup, should hell ever freeze over and I secure funding some day.<p>The nice part is that doing so usually goes hand-in-hand with the product&#x2F;market&#x2F;technology research you conduct anyways, so the practice has a very low time investment attached to it. For the most part, you simply stumble upon desirable people during the course of seemingly unrelated research, dig into their background, and then add them to the list.<p>On a humorous note, quite a few people on my list later ended up being hired by YC HARC. Hey Sam, what are the finer points of YC companies* trying to hire talent attached to YC projects? Can you offer any pointers? :)<p>* <i>Not a YC company (yet).</i>
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CPLXabout 8 years ago
The moral of the story here, clearly, is that when you&#x27;re one of a pair of billionaires collectively responsible for some of the most successful entrepreneurship successes in recent history, and you decide to have someone handle logistics for a new venture, make sure they&#x27;re enthusiastic.
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metaphormabout 8 years ago
I disliked the article. I think sama is simultaneously over-personalizing and also losing context and perspective.<p>Sure, maybe it is a generalizable description of virtuous qualities but it also strikes me as something different and much worse. Here&#x27;s another interpretation &quot;I sure am fortunate that I know this wealthy, well-connected person who helps me with my businesses that require knowing wealthy, well-connected people.&quot;
6stringmercabout 8 years ago
This nice summation really reminds me of a quote from <i>Shawshank Redemption</i> which is, I must admit, not the most flattering in a business context:<p>&gt;<i>I&#x27;m a convicted felon who provides sound financial advice - it&#x27;s a nice pet to have.</i><p>The best takeaway for Technical &#x2F; SV minded folks in this posting is quite clear: The odds of success are greatly enhanced when you have a Top Flight Communicator at your disposal. An ability to &quot;walk amongst the tribes&quot; is very important. It&#x27;s a lot like getting various human systems into harmony &#x2F; unison (nerves and cardiovascular for instance).<p>I can state from first-hand experience with Bids&#x2F;RFPs for projects worth tens of thousands to billions that the most important person in the room is the Proposal Coordinator and they get the least respect and compensation out of the gate. It&#x27;s realistically a horribly stressful job that is only rewarding to a very select group of people, one of which happens to be me. I&#x27;ve learned how to herd cats.<p>If I wanted to be, uh, less generous in my perspective, the Machiavellian perspective is much more clear: &quot;Manipulating people is a profitable enterprise.&quot;<p>That&#x27;s why I have a photo of Winston Wolf in my peripheral vision every day at work, because his motto makes the most sense in a world plagued by Murphy&#x27;s Laws...<p>&gt;<i>My name is Winston Wolf. I solve problems.</i>
graycatabout 8 years ago
From about 20,000 feet higher than the OP, one of the issues about PG, Sam, and YC is the combination of (1) lots of warnings about the dangers of disputes among startup co-founders and, thus, the extreme need for yet another startup co-founder, this one to play <i>den mother</i>, peace maker, mother hen, group psychologist, Chief Cat Herder, etc. versus (2) extreme negativity about a solo founder.<p>From another 10,000 feet up, here is a simple observation: All across the US, from the largest cities to the smallest crossroad communities, there are solo founders of successful auto repair shops, auto body shops, dentist practices, CPA practices, rental property ownership and management, pizza carryout shops, Chinese carry out shops, <i>Mobil Travel Guide</i> five star restaurants, pediatrician practices, manufacturer representative practices, big-truck, little-truck businesses of wide variety, etc. where commonly the cash to start the business is higher than that of servers, domain name, and Internet connection of a Web site.<p>So, solo founders do relatively well in <i>main street</i> startups. Since co-founders are not crucial for main street business and since a Web site startup should be in most ways easier, why are co-founders crucial for Web site startups? Since co-founder disputes are so common and potentially destructive, why be so eager to have co-founders and so down on solo founders?<p>With the above, to me, hiring a co-founder as a recruiter, office peace maker, general evangelist, smiling face, optimistic, good hand shake, meeter and greeter who knows a lot of people is a big slice of cash and equity for the usual thin budget of a startup.<p>Or, as we often hear, the crucial work of a startup is to keep the <i>burn rate</i> as low as possible and ASAP please the customers&#x2F;users and get to earnings. In this case, an office peace maker, etc. is at best a nice to have if for free, otherwise not a must have for free, and likely too expensive if have to pay much.
Kevin_Sabout 8 years ago
YC at this moment is able to recruit the absolute top talent for any position they can envision. Damn that is a lot of power they wield, especially in starting these projects like Open AI and the Basic Income. I&#x27;d love to be able to invest in YC, as I think a good return at this point is one of the best bets an investor could make.
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ztabout 8 years ago
I&#x27;m sure that many others could write much better informed or detailed additions to Sama&#x27;s post.<p>All I will say is that I worked at Stripe very briefly -- for about three months -- when the company was about thirty people (before I went on to go through YC). Greg was incredibly generous with his time in explaining and working with me as a non-engineer.<p>I don&#x27;t think he had been named CTO yet (Stripe was quite title phobic at the start) but it was clear that he was both a technical and non-technical leader of the company. He spent time to explain code and architecture to me, while also chatting through cultural norms and various organizational tensions Stripe was experiencing as it grew.<p>I think the acculturation to Stripe that he very deliberately supported in me was critical for what (little) success I had with Standard Treasury.<p>This is all to say that Sama’s post is spot on in my experience. Greg exhibited every one of the mentioned characteristics (except recruiting, I didn’t interacting with him on that) even when working with someone with which he didn’t have to be so generous.
gavanwooleryabout 8 years ago
I only worked at OpenAI for a short period, but what was written here seems to mirror what I saw, FWIW. I would add in that Greg struck me as one of the sharpest people in the company, and one of the hardest working (he would often stay there late into the night, even on weekends).
CptJamesCookabout 8 years ago
Greg Brockman:<p>Went to MIT<p>Went to Harvard<p>Was CTO of a 10 billion dollar company for 5 years, starting the year it was founded<p>Yeah, I&#x27;d take a cofounder like that.
pgrovesabout 8 years ago
But why does Greg need a cofounder?
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rihegherabout 8 years ago
Greg remind me of Jared in the Silicon Valley TV show
gcheongabout 8 years ago
If all startups need a Greg and there are only so many Gregs to go around, can new Gregs be deliberately created?
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Diederichabout 8 years ago
&gt; Elon and I were both busy with day jobs ...<p>Epic, lovely understatement there!
gormo2about 8 years ago
What was the inspiration for the dinner that kicked off OpenAI? What made you invite Greg to it?
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codingdaveabout 8 years ago
Every success DOES need a guy like Greg. But I really worry about the part where Greg was working on the effort full-time, doing it all while the other guys still worked. When it ends in success, it is a great story. When it ends without success, Greg is the guy who put all his time into it, then ends up with nothing. Greg becomes the warning story.<p>Greg is the guy you need. Not necessarily the guy you want to be.
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satysinabout 8 years ago
This <i>kind of</i> goes with something I said a while ago <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=12761258" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=12761258</a><p>A good project manager[0] to keep on top of everything and pick up all the miscellaneous tasks can&#x2F;will make or break a startup.<p>[0] Well the title doesn&#x27;t matter but I used PM so I will stick to that title.
mwetzlerabout 8 years ago
Nice and sweet love letter to Greg. Shared with our founders.<p>We have a slightly alternative model: There hasn&#x27;t been a consistent Greg 5+ years, but there is always a founder willing to be Greg when the previous Greg needs a break. Especially important once people start having children and go through the various ups and downs of life.
mirceamabout 8 years ago
This might be besides the point of the post, but I&#x27;ll ask anyway.<p>@Greg, perhaps you could talk a bit about what you think makes you a productive engineer and problem-solver. What&#x27;s your workflow like, how do you approach a problem, or learning a new concept, what tools do you use, etc.
ilakshabout 8 years ago
Cool but why doesn&#x27;t he get a last name. I don&#x27;t actually know who it is.
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27182818284about 8 years ago
&gt;high latency<p>I wonder if that&#x27;s a typo.
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ttamabout 8 years ago
@gdb: do you have anything to say about sama&#x27;s post? and what have been the activities that you found most valuable in your life?
tmalyabout 8 years ago
someone like Greg is going to be hard to come by.
linkmotifabout 8 years ago
Great piece thank you.
davidhaririabout 8 years ago
Damn. Wish I was Greg.
fourstarabout 8 years ago
&gt; with an average email response time of about 5 minutes to anything<p>Why is this being praised?<p>Can&#x27;t stand the &quot;always on&quot; economy. It&#x27;s OK to not immediately to respond to things.
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brilliantcodeabout 8 years ago
Greg sounds like me. Usually gets taken advantage of by people writing articles like this.
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