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Research suggests elite scientists impede progress in their field until they die [pdf]

43 pointsby teslacarabout 8 years ago

4 comments

rurbanabout 8 years ago
There&#x27;s much more data in the Programming Languages field, which contradicts this study: Let&#x27;s look at the popular dynamic languages, where progress is either hindered by the original author still working on it or stepped back, or where progress succeeded, when the original author is there or not there.<p>* ruby: matz still there, stagnating progress (sound but slow design, desperate implementation problems)<p>* python: guido still there, steady but slow progress (sound but slow design, proper management at least)<p>* php: rasmus still there, but thanksfully not really. with less rasmus, more progress. esp. after hhvm and php7. (unsound design, unsound community, but external pressure improved it radically)<p>* perl5: larry went away, decline (unsound design, unsound community)<p>* parrot: authors went away, death. (even with sound design, which was later destroyed by community)<p>* perl6: founders still there, progress. (sound design, huge implementation problems)<p>There are many more examples, but this is the easiest summary. esp. with the lisps, which all have a sound design and a single author.<p>So we have both, positive and negative influences:<p>* when the original design was sound, but the author went away, it will decline.<p>* when the original design was a hack, and the author went way, it might progress.<p>* when the original design was sound, and the author is still there, perfect.<p>* when the original design was a hack, and the author is still there, decline or death.
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rschoabout 8 years ago
This concept has a long history: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;The_Structure_of_Scientific_Revolutions" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;The_Structure_of_Scientific_...</a>
cbanekabout 8 years ago
I almost feel as if there&#x27;s a corollary in the tech industry, specifically with long time employees. When an employee has worked somewhere for a long time, certain systems are considered untouchable (as if they were made by the hand of God), until the brilliant person who came up with them leaves. Then there&#x27;s a flurry of development to replace unmaintainable pieces, or get to that next level of performance, etc.<p>Plus, new people will avoid that area, considering it plowed and looking for whatever new green pasture will net them that recognition and promotion.
Pica_soOabout 8 years ago
So if universities want to push a field, how can they protect new ideas and accelerate there recognition? Force into every publication by the &quot;field-leader&quot; one contradicting page of the other, newer thought school?
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