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Skype lies, breaks "Skype-to-Skype"calls are free promise

141 pointsby evanwolfabout 15 years ago

19 comments

Yaggoabout 15 years ago
Not fair. I pay my operator a monthly fee for mobile data (10 € for unlimited 384 kb/s including two SIMs / devices, to be exact). Skype pays for their incoming/outgoing data – it doesn't cost extra for them whether the data is originated from mobile network or <any-type> network. Skype is simply not justified to charge extra based on client's connection type, not even if I used Iridium network to route my bytes to them. Maybe Skype has grown big enough to behave as asshole and they know it.
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stellar678about 15 years ago
This probably has to do with whether or not a device is able to participate in Skype's p2p call routing. If being on 3g introduces too much latency or has too limited bandwidth to contribute in the network, then each client will have a marginal cost to Skype. Maybe they're trying to ensure they can keep up with that.<p>Or maybe they're just grubbing for money.
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iamdaveabout 15 years ago
I'm intensely curious who's pulling the strings behind this, is Skype really to blame or is it the mobile carriers putting pressure on them to collect more ARPU by creating yet <i>another</i> fee to collect from subscribers.
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evanwolfabout 15 years ago
Skype will break its freemium promise to Skype users in three months. Skype for iPhone will require a subscription to make Skype-to-Skype calls over 3G/Edge starting in September 2010 according to Skype. This changes things from "Skype-to-Skype calls are free", which they've been saying since launch, to "Skype-to-Skype calls are free over landlines and Wi-Fi unless your Verizon or Three mobile operator subsidizes your service."<p>Skype has no marginal cost if I make that iPhone 3G call. Why are they charging separately?<p>Presumably subscriptions will apply to future use of Skype-to-Skype on Blackberry, Nokia, and Android phones.
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neonfunkabout 15 years ago
From Skype's perspective, how is the cell network different from any other ISP? It's the carriers who will shoulder the burden; and there's no indication that any of the fee is going to them, given that Skype says "operator fees may still apply". I don't get it.
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paul9290about 15 years ago
Upon seeing this I am contemplating canceling AT&#38;T service - keeping my iphone and get a Verizon or Sprint MiFi router and use Skype to place the calls, as well use my Google VOice number to ring my skype in number. I use my GV # now anyway so I can just forward it. I dont talk on the phone that much more so text, facebook, email and twitter.<p>Im not sure im going to do this but it's tempting even more when skype will be able to run in the background on my 3GS when 4.0 comes out. I would save myself $10 to $20 a month doing this. THe MiFi I can carry in my wallet.
stretchwithmeabout 15 years ago
was it a promise to be free forever? or just one of their features, which they are free to change whenever they wish?
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riobardabout 15 years ago
I'm wondering how long Skype calling in fring &#60;<a href="http://www.fring.com&#62" rel="nofollow">http://www.fring.com&#62</a>; will remain for free.
loyaltyspaceabout 15 years ago
What a sensationalist headline.<p>So what if they've introduced charges? If someone else provides this for free, go there. If not, cough up!
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cookiecaperabout 15 years ago
I guess I don't think it's that big of a deal. When Skype promised "free Skype-to-Skype", I don't think they considered that they would eventually be used on smartphones. It'd probably be smarter if they'd just charged a few bucks from the app first place, though.<p>This may also be a condition imposed by Apple, because people with unlimited data plans would use Skype instead of their (limited) included airtime, which I'm sure doesn't make cellular partners too happy.
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dc2k08about 15 years ago
When I bought my last phone nearly three years ago, the selling point was that pre-installed skype app worked for free over their 3G network and skype to skype calls were free. Skype out calls were barred though. I presume this new charge only applies to iphones? If it is the case that Apple badgered them into applying a charge which some are suggesting, I presume this information will leak at some stage. Won't be good PR if true.
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moolaveabout 15 years ago
Somewhere, some company will level the playing field on this feature. It's happened to phone companies, why not on this app?
pixelcortabout 15 years ago
Does this have anything to do with a potential difficulty in establishing direct connections between Skype clients that are both on 3G networks? Are they running relays for these clients that they are trying to recuperate from?
ephealyabout 15 years ago
I was already considering a full jump to Google Voice. This may seal the deal.
adrianscottabout 15 years ago
I think they started lying earlier when they offered 'unlimited' that isn't really unlimited, but subject to a so-called fair use policy. I would call that 'virtually unlimited'. FTC, where are you??
johnrobabout 15 years ago
I lost any trust for Skype the first time they emailed me that I had 7 days to use some credit or they would confiscate all of it. How is that not theft?
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RabidChihuahuaabout 15 years ago
Skype mobile is really a different kind of product. If they want to charge for it they are entitled. Phone calling is getting cheap enough as is.
bdfh42about 15 years ago
Skype not playing honest with their customers? Hardly news is it? I dropped them several years ago because of basic dishonesty on their part.
cabalamatabout 15 years ago
I'm not bothered by this, because it's their funeral. There are other VoIP programs, it's not particularly difficult to write one, and with Android set to dominate open-architecture 3G phones, something else will dominate VoIP. Hopefully, something open source and using an open protocol. (SIP?)<p>Oh and if you bought an iPhone and can't access the cost-free VoIP solution? That'll teach you to buy locked-down hardware, you idiot[1].<p>1: this description does not apply to people who took an eyes-open decision to buy locked-down hardware, knowing it was locked down, realising the consequences and accepting them.
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