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Show HN: Sawtooth – Online audio workspace

109 pointsby myzieabout 8 years ago

16 comments

jensenboxabout 8 years ago
I find myself asking questions that could easily be answered with a demo or some sort of try before signup.<p>The idea of everything I click on going to the signup page really is a huge turn off and personally I consider it to be a poor user first experience.<p>You should add some sort of something that allows me to see what you are about before making me sign up. I don&#x27;t even know what I get if I sign up.<p>Otherwise, I am sure you have done a great job.
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cyberferretabout 8 years ago
As a frequent user of SoundCloud, Gobbler and plain old DropBox to share audio files among fans and colleagues in the industry, I am wondering what the advantage of Sawtooth could be?<p>I see that you have filters etc., but given that I would rather adjust EQ and effects on my tracks on my own DAW with virtually no latency, I don&#x27;t know that I would actually do that on a web platform with all the vagaries of lag, dropped signals etc.?<p>Plus the fact that most audio people have their favourite &#x27;go to&#x27; plugins for reverb, delay, chorus etc. as VST&#x2F;AU plugins that they pull into their DAW - it seems that Sawtooth straddles that line between being a quick &#x27;grab an audio recording snippet for sharing&#x27; and a full fledged web based DAW.<p>I am assuming a &#x27;use case&#x27; for this would be to capture a song or riff idea while I was sitting in a hotel room between travelling etc., but to be honest, I have a lot of iPhone apps for doing that and posting directly to the sites I mentioned above. To make Sawtooth compelling, it would probably have to supply some rudimentary DAW like capabilities, such as perhaps a metronome, some sort of ability to do basic MIDI patterns with uploaded samples, and perhaps some rudimentary multi track ability - even 3 or 4 tracks would be great for doing basic song ideas to send to my band members.
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puranjayabout 8 years ago
As an amateur producer, I&#x27;m wondering: what&#x27;s the utility of something like this?<p>If I create a new set, I have the option to use the &#x27;Synth&#x27;.<p>Let&#x27;s be very honest here: if I want to make real music, I&#x27;m going to turn to a serious DAW + synth plugin. I personally use both Massive and Serum with Ableton. Anything you cook up in a webapp is going to fall seriously, <i>seriously</i> short of what Serum can do.<p>Not to mention that a web tool just doesn&#x27;t fit into the workflow. The synth is the heart of digital music production. If I&#x27;m making music in Ableton, I want my synth to be inside Ableton.<p>This might interest absolute amateurs, but amateurs won&#x27;t pay for this, and by the time they are advanced enough to <i>want</i> to pay, they would have discovered Ableton&#x2F;Logic&#x2F;FLStudio.<p>I don&#x27;t mean any offense, but I find that online music tools like this are generally very poorly thought. They are a solution searching for a problem instead of the other way around.<p>A lot of people need simple tweaks to their photos or graphics. This is why online photo editing tools work even though they fall far short of Photoshop in capabilities.<p>But audio&#x2F;music? This isn&#x27;t something your average Joe needs for his Instagram profile or his Facebook business page. If someone is serious about music&#x2F;audio editing, he will eventually want to use a professional tool.<p>Not to mention that Ableton Lite is quite decent for someone new to music production
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microcolonelabout 8 years ago
I think the marketing page could do with some demos. There are online DAWs already and most of them are pretty sad. If you showcase some real audio work accomplished with Sawtooth, it&#x27;ll be more worth signing up to try.<p>I have DAW software already, I use Ardour and Pure Data on my computer, so I want to know that I can do something compelling with your tool before bothering to set up an account.
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jvanegmondabout 8 years ago
I&#x27;ve very long wanted something like this! Basically like a CyberChef ( <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gchq.github.io&#x2F;CyberChef&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gchq.github.io&#x2F;CyberChef&#x2F;</a> ) but for audio. I work in digital speech processing and often work with audio codecs and it would be very helpful to have an online tool which lets you apply multiple filters to some audio.<p>What I&#x27;m missing after trying out Sawtooth is the interactivity of CyberChef. Basically trying out a few filters, one after the other, showing the intermediate results for each, and some frequency analysis on it, and hearing the results. Can audio filters be applied in the browser for instant-feedback to hear the audio &#x27;live&#x27; (like CyberChef auto-bake) like it can be with text?<p>And some conversions would be really great as well, like being able to apply various encodings: Treating the samples as a-law encoded and applying an a-law decoding pass on it.
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jasonkostempskiabout 8 years ago
Did you ever have a desktop app? In the early 2000&#x27;s I used a program I thought was called Sawtooth, or maybe it was just SAW, &#x27;saw&#x27; was in the name, but I can&#x27;t for the life of me find it anywhere. You could draw a wave form with the mouse, name it, piano roll it, sequence it into a song and export as a wave and that was about it. I know that sounds like ever DAW on the planet but it didn&#x27;t have any advanced features and I think drawing the wave form was unique to it at the time. If anyone knows what I&#x27;m talking about please let me know.
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gargarplexabout 8 years ago
I do a bit of online video production (for social media marketing and for online courses) and I have to open up audacity every once in a while. I don&#x27;t like the audacity user experience. Here&#x27;s my feature request list<p>1) Make it easy to switch audio formats ([mp3|wav|au|etc]-&gt;[mp3|wav|au|etc])<p>2) One button to make it louder, one button to make it quieter<p>3) A good cut and paste interface with the ability to zoom in and out and see the spectrogram so one may be sure that one starts cutting at the audio part (if there is white noise)<p>4) Abilities to selectively remove deep or high voices and remove background noise
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Optimal_Personaabout 8 years ago
Interesting. In &quot;Works With Multiple Formats&quot; section, it mentions &#x27;AU&#x27; - do you mean AIFF (AU is Apple&#x27;s Audio Unit plugin format)? &#x27;Chorus&#x27; is misspelled under &quot;Filters&quot;.<p>What is bitrate&#x2F;quality of transcoding, and how would you rate your DSP algorithms compared to those in pro DAWs&#x2F;editors? Like, is that FreeVerb or something fancier, and what about pitchshift&#x2F;timestretch quality and zero-delay filters? Audio folks are pretty picky about quality these days.
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tommynicholasabout 8 years ago
I like this idea - but why do you let people edit the .wav part of the extension? That was super counterintuitive to me could I have done .mp3 for example?<p>I&#x27;ll leave any other feedback I have here unless you have an email I can send it to - I&#x27;ve been looking for a good web version of Hum (the mobile app) and this looks like it could be it + more!
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mjmjabout 8 years ago
Seems like a great start. I too would like to see ways to combine waveforms. And a bigger ask of being able to draw filters in real time while playing back to hear changes instead having to process them to find out what will happen as well as loop the same while editing. I realizing I&#x27;m asking for more DAW like features! :P
seviloabout 8 years ago
Seems like a really cool project with potential. Would like to see the ability to preview on filters and synths, that seems like a big downside compared to the desktop DAWs.<p>Also not sure if there&#x27;s a place to report bugs and provide feedback in the future?
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redmandabout 8 years ago
I was playing with it for a bit and came across a few issues, but can&#x27;t seem to find a support or contact link. Where would you like such information sent?
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acuozzoabout 8 years ago
It would be worthwhile to mention if multichannel audio is supported or if the application is limited to working with mono and stereo inputs.
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myzieabout 8 years ago
FYI - you can use Google login if you visit the Sign In page (instead of Sign Up). Need to make this more obvious.
thecrumbabout 8 years ago
Click - sign up. ... No.
thenormalabout 8 years ago
Can It be used for direct streeming?