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The de Havilland Comet changed aviation for good

84 pointsby nairteashopabout 8 years ago

11 comments

WalterBrightabout 8 years ago
The corner of a square hole in a flat plate has 4x the stress of the surrounding material. It&#x27;s called a &quot;stress riser&quot;. If you look at a concrete slab with such an inside corner, there&#x27;s usually a crack there.<p>Boeing solved the problem by using rounded windows, and riveting on a forged doubler around the window frame. The skin was also organized so a crack will not propagate far. The success of the latter has shown itself in various incidents where an airliner has lost a panel in flight, but went on to land safely.
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WalterBrightabout 8 years ago
The other problem the Comet had was economic. It could only carry 36 passengers. The 707 could carry 140.<p>The larger number of passengers meant the 707 per-passenger cost made it cheaper to operate. The 707 could do 5 times the work of a piston powered DC-6 at only double the cost. It was a huge money-maker for airlines.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;generalatomic.com&#x2F;jetmakers&#x2F;chapter7.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;generalatomic.com&#x2F;jetmakers&#x2F;chapter7.html</a>
phillc73about 8 years ago
When I read the headline, I was really hoping this article was about the de Havilland DH.88 Comet.[1] That really was a beautiful aeroplane.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;De_Havilland_DH.88" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;De_Havilland_DH.88</a>
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gaiusabout 8 years ago
Such a wasted opportunity. Around the same time, the UK was throwing away its leadership in computing too. Weirdly, both ended up in Seattle.
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barkingabout 8 years ago
Peter Duffey first flew during WW2 <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.buckinghamcovers.com&#x2F;celebrities&#x2F;view&#x2F;127-captain-peter-duffey.php" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.buckinghamcovers.com&#x2F;celebrities&#x2F;view&#x2F;127-captai...</a><p>he also wrote a book about his flying experiences <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.co.uk&#x2F;Comets-Concordes-Peter-Duffey&#x2F;dp&#x2F;1888962100" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.co.uk&#x2F;Comets-Concordes-Peter-Duffey&#x2F;dp&#x2F;18...</a>
cdegrootabout 8 years ago
My biggest &quot;surprise&quot; always is how little we have progressed if you just look at how the planes look and how fast they fly (6h11m NY-&gt;London in 1958, that&#x27;s pretty much what they do today, not?). It seems like the airline industry got a lot of stuff just right the first time and since then just has been doing performance tweaks (where I take &quot;performance&quot; to be very broad to include things like safety, economy, ...).
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mirimirabout 8 years ago
It&#x27;s indeed a beautiful aeroplane.<p>But what&#x27;s striking, and indeed rather UFO-like, are the small engine intakes. Anyone know what&#x27;s up with that?
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rwmjabout 8 years ago
There is a &quot;square windows&quot; Comet 1A in the <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dehavillandmuseum.co.uk&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dehavillandmuseum.co.uk&#x2F;</a> , next to the northern stretch of the M25. Well worth a day out to this quiet little museum (home of the former De Havilland factory) if you live in or around London.
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tajenabout 8 years ago
I like the De Havilland story in how it made the managers look like fools: 2 crashes in bad weather, +1 in good weather, a worldwide suspension of operations, resumed a fortnight later with reassuring words from the management, +1 another crash, then a more serious stress test (which should have been done since the beginning), with negative results, then a bankruptcy... Fortunately, that&#x27;s what happens to the wrong companies.<p>Another aircraft story I love is the Tu-144, the copy of the Concorde: &quot;Critical alarms were so routine that pilots had to borrow pillows from passengers to stuff the cockpit siren&quot;. The full Wikipedia article is worth reading (or the Mayday episode worth watching), it&#x27;s a good laugh.<p>Each time I fly, I internally laugh at how crazy humans are, throwing a can of the most inflammable liquid we can find, at 900km&#x2F;h. &quot;Play with fire, mum says, ...&quot; and play with fire we do.
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mcguireabout 8 years ago
The British Nimrod, a submarine hunter, as well as other roles, was based on the Comet and was in service until 2012.<p>Modified Comets apparently flew until 1997.
hydrogen18about 8 years ago
Does the BBC not even get the history of Britain correct? The aircraft never exploded. It just broke up in mid flight.