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Ask HN: How much of your time at work do you spend not working?

200 pointsby acalderaroabout 8 years ago
Let's include meetings/email as job related.

55 comments

throw832649about 8 years ago
Throwaway for maximum honesty: I am pretty sure I spend at least 75% of my time &quot;at work&quot; not working. HN, Reddit, messing around with side projects or learning a new language or framework. This has been the case for my entire working life.<p>I seem to get as much done as other people (sometimes better) so part of me wonders if I&#x27;m not as unusual as I feel. Part of me wonders if I should get evaluated for ADHD, since I find it such a struggle to focus on my work. And part of me is just frustrated with myself, that theoretically I could spend like 3 <i>good</i> hours at work each day, get more done, and have more quality time to myself.
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hardworkerthrowabout 8 years ago
Over the first 15+ years of my career as an engineer and engineering manager, I&#x27;ve repeatedly surveyed colleagues and friends in engineering roles about this question. I&#x27;ve asked it of people I consider low-performing, all the way to folks I&#x27;d consider 10x developers.<p>I have never met a single software developer who, when pressed to give an honest assessment and when &quot;working&quot; is defined along the lines of &quot;actively defining, coding, or debugging a feature&quot;, self-identifies as working more than 50% of the time. There are occasional stretches of 12+ hour working sessions, but they are very rare.<p>I&#x27;d say I&#x27;ve asked this of over a hundred people.<p>This isn&#x27;t to say these people only do 4 hours of work a day. Often, peers have described how they hit a wall at work, go home, and then work on personal projects in the evening.<p>I&#x27;ve come to the conclusion that is generally impossible to do mentally intensive tasks for more than 4 continuous hours over the long term.
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decasiaabout 8 years ago
Arguably, time spent reading HN is a legitimate part of becoming&#x2F;remaining a good developer. Certainly, spending time socializing with coworkers is a required part of work, many places. Spending some amount of time unwinding at the office is arguably required for mental health and therefore a functional component of remaining a worker -- does that count as working?<p>&quot;Working&quot; is an ambiguous category, it seems to me. One definition of work (call it &quot;productivist&quot;) says that we&#x27;re only working when we&#x27;re literally producing something valuable. A more organizational view might hold that &quot;work&quot; is <i>whatever</i> you&#x27;re socially (often implicitly) required to do to keep your job (whether measurably productive or not). And a third more holistic definition would include stuff like exercise or professional development that are not always directly &quot;required&quot; by anyone, but that you might go crazy without doing...
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lazythrowawaydabout 8 years ago
I probably spend half my time not working. I&#x27;m burnt out though. After a few years at my current position, I just don&#x27;t care.<p>Why is this?<p>I&#x27;ve had a few promising projects languish because my manager is slow or hesitant to allocate resources. That&#x27;s a bit demoralizing. When I&#x27;m on a path to production for a functioning system I get caught up in the devops meeting vortex. That&#x27;s a waste of time and it takes several weeks to get any sort of resolution. In these cases my time is mostly spent looking for workarounds and not &quot;working&quot;. I feel there are a lot of politics and favoritism in the company, and my manager (and our team) is not on the right side. It&#x27;s demotivating to have your work ignored because you&#x27;re not a priority. I don&#x27;t know how anyone stays for more than a year.<p>Edit: In the first few months I worked on random on-going projects, but was quickly made lead on some new projects. It was good at first, but after about 9 months I&#x27;d say most (90%) weeks I don&#x27;t put in anywhere near 40 hours of work.<p>The sad thing is I&#x27;ve always gotten a raise (double digit in two cases) and full bonus every performance cycle.<p>I&#x27;ve finally started looking for another job.<p>Does anyone have recommendations? I&#x27;m really looking for a company that enables their individual contributors (engineers) to actually get shit done.
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ThrustVectoringabout 8 years ago
You&#x27;re almost certainly getting a sampling bias by asking this question at ~2pm Pacific Time on a weekday.
9erdeltaabout 8 years ago
Some days almost the entire day. I&#x27;ll read, watch videos, do some tutorials. But its offset because usually when I do this it&#x27;s because I&#x27;m hung up on something and it just isn&#x27;t going to get solved unless the ole brain has time to do its subconscious thing.
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superasnabout 8 years ago
Speaking as a solopreneur, I work only 3 hours a day, more like 3 x 50 minutes laps with 15 min breaks in between.<p>Also each lap is dedicated to one activity, first is manufacturing where I work on my project (the actual coding part), second is traffic (this is the dreaded marketing&#x2F;outreach part) and finally is the optimization part (seo, increasing conversion rates, improving design, etc).<p>I&#x27;ve seen that the diversity of this work prevents you from getting bored and also is very good for your sites because if you keep working on just coding your sites seldom make any money.<p>The 3 hours limit is because after that i can happily watch tv, spend time with my family or just work on my other hobbies besides computers guilt free.<p>P.s. When you try to do as much work as you can, i believe you still only get 3 hours of work done - yet you feel guilty of not doing enough which causes unhappiness.
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throw112358about 8 years ago
I sit in a cubicle and I update bank software. I&#x27;d say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work.
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webjacabout 8 years ago
I&#x27;ve been an employee for like 20% of my career and a the rest I&#x27;ve been a freelancer.<p>I never worked more than 4 hours (of real work a day). There&#x27;s the occasional super productive day where I have done over 8 hours of productive work, but that&#x27;s the exception, not the rule.<p>I usually work around 3-4 hours of productive work daily. Heck I&#x27;d even say 20%-30% of that time is not even productive (meetings, emails and necessary yet unproductive things).<p>When I worked for companies doing 9 to 5, I wasted a looot of time doing nothing: reddit, fb, and stuff. I also recognize that I need that distraction to do some real productive work.<p>I&#x27;m very fast and productive when it comes to actual work, but if I don&#x27;t get the procrastination time then I just become a blurry mess of a brain and take 10 times longer to do the same things.
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swahabout 8 years ago
60% or more :(<p>But there are SOME DAYS that I work 150%! (&quot;in the flow&quot;)<p>So how to achieve flow consistently?<p>One of the few things that works for me is to get started working first thing in the morning: no news, no HN, until 10am, etc. <i>When</i> I can do this, I know I&#x27;ll have a productive day.
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slizardabout 8 years ago
Pre-, during, or post-burnout?
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iLochabout 8 years ago
I&#x27;d like to see where people are from if they&#x27;re replying to this thread. I wonder how cultural norms affect effectiveness (do Americans work less at work because of the work-oriented culture which requires them to stay at work longer for no reason?)
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throwaway_jazzeabout 8 years ago
(Throwaway for honesty)<p>Significantly less now that I work remotely, on my own schedule, and at a reasonable company. I get 6+ hours a day of real work in, usually more, but try not to overdo it. (For awhile I was becoming a bit workaholic without the boundary between work and not-work, spending 10+ hours at it.) I take breaks and do spend a little time on HN or Stack Exchange to clear my head, but I don&#x27;t do Reddit, webcomics, facebook, or any random sites during work. That&#x27;s my relax after work stuff, done on a different PC. So in terms of productivity, I&#x27;d say around 75-85% work, 15-25% slack most days.<p>I previously worked an 8:30-5:30 where management measured productivity by the butts-in-seats metric, scheduled a lot of meetings, and was quite anal about punctuality. I was lucky to get 4 hours of serious work in most days (between all the interruptions, bureaucratic stuff, and having to work based on my manager&#x27;s sleep schedule). Sometimes I ended up doing more work at home at night than I did while &#x27;at work&#x27;. Maybe 50% productivity, often less.<p>Before that I worked at a 9-5 where we had to record our time per task so specifically that we even had a task to enter the time spent filling out the timesheet. I could have done better there about focusing on solving problems and improving business if I wasn&#x27;t constantly distracted by the clock ticking and all the estimating and meetings about estimates and deadlines and timesheets. Maybe 50% productivity.
justruddabout 8 years ago
Hm. Given an average week, probably on average 35% of my day is not working. Average being a reasonably interesting bug and&#x2F;or project to sink my teeth into. Somedays I&#x27;ll work 10 hours. Others I&#x27;ll work 4 to 6.<p>Unlike most people, if I finish my work in 5 hours, I go home. If I&#x27;m not going to be working, I&#x27;d rather not be working at home. I&#x27;ve never had any complaints about work quality or throughput. I have had one complaint about not being seen in the office.<p>[edit] clarified the 35% bucket
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neal_jonesabout 8 years ago
I have recently gone freelance&#x2F;self-employed and I have quickly missed the reality of being able to not have to question if I&#x27;m actually getting work done every minute of the day. The truth is, I can&#x27;t do brain-intensive work for more than maybe 5 or 6 hours.
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mikekcharabout 8 years ago
I have a follow up question: For the time that you spend &quot;not working&quot; would you prefer to &quot;work&quot;?<p>For me the answer is &quot;absolutely!!!&quot;. Reading through some of the responses, it really seems that people are mixed. Either their &quot;non-working&quot; time is spent with side projects&#x2F;training or they have become demotivated by problems with the work flow on their team.<p>For me the latter is by far the biggest problem. I was just thinking the other day that, as programmers, we need a kind of statement that indicates what we expect from the organisations we are in.<p>To be honest, I really want to work instead of write stuff on HN, so I&#x27;ll leave this as an exercise to the interested. As an example, I think it is reasonable to expect to be able to spend whole days writing code (which means that someone else has to go to the meetings, and someone else has to clarify requirements, and someone else has to prioritise). There should be some clear resolution of differences of opinion (whether that be in technical direction, or whatever) -- a programmer shouldn&#x27;t have to spend time arguing. A programmer should expect to have spaces both for interacting with groups of people and for quiet contemplation. I sure there are other (and better) ideas, but that&#x27;s what I have off the cuff.
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throwaway184827about 8 years ago
Reading this thread has made me feel a whole lot better about myself. Been struggling with burnout and have been working on side projects a good 50% of the time while I overestimate projects to give me larger buffers. I just don&#x27;t give a fuck anymore. I thought I was alone.<p>(Yes, I know it&#x27;s wrong and I <i>want</i> to be more productive, but I hate the work I do and I hate the culture here. So I want to start my own thing.)
dylanhaabout 8 years ago
Developer here. Going by my time Rescuetime logs, 62.5% of my time is spent outside of the IDE or any other work related application. I do not enjoy this work and spend a lot of time walking around&#x2F;thinking about the problem&#x2F;surfing non work sites.
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throw110about 8 years ago
I spent 60-70% of my time not working because even though I&#x27;m working with interesting technology, it&#x27;s stuff that won&#x27;t get used by almost anyway, my peers don&#x27;t seem interested, my manager is absent and the requirements are all over the place (symptom of nobody caring, whatever is done is okay as long as it impresses, for some random definition of &quot;impresses)...<p>... so it needs to be done to check an item in a list but nobody cares. If nobody cares, I don&#x27;t care either, which makes me think I&#x27;m wasting my time, which leads to depression, feeling burnt out, procrastinating even more, etc.
jonahrdabout 8 years ago
Unfortunately I&#x27;m paid hourly and remotely, so while getting settled, checking an email or two, getting coffee, etc are all things I would do as part of a normal workday, I don&#x27;t tend to log those hours or get paid for any of it
IAmGraydonabout 8 years ago
I spend around 90% of my time at work doing real work. There are often days where that number is nearly 100%. At past jobs that number was closer to 50-60%, but I&#x27;ve moved into a lead role (Marketing Director) where slacking means getting buried. I don&#x27;t mind it one bit, either. I&#x27;m helping to steer the company and that&#x27;s very rewarding, even if it is a lot of work.
iambenabout 8 years ago
I record my time pretty religiously. 5 hours seems to be a standard &quot;working day&quot; of actually solid in the flow (face buried in a screen) work, assuming I&#x27;m sat at a desk for 7&#x2F;8.<p>That said, if I&#x27;m rolling and happy it can be way more, if I&#x27;m tired&#x2F;struggling to hit the flow&#x2F;not creative - way less. I can get an awful lot done in a day (or few days) if I push, but doing that long term becomes counter productive.<p>On a regular day, I&#x27;ll also get a bunch of smaller &#x27;work&#x27; done, but it&#x27;s mostly the admin-y stuff. Sales, email, help, calls, networking. Sometimes that can be my whole day - I suppose it depends how important those things are at the time (sales!) as to how much they&#x27;re considered &#x27;work&#x27;.<p>Edit: Just to add, decent headphones are a godsend.
trueboskoabout 8 years ago
In all honesty, I try to stay full throttle at work.<p>Important breaks I do take: Coffee walk (unfortunately on some busy days I simply can&#x27;t make it out), Quick chats with the team, and Pomodoro-timed walks to stretch&#x2F;ease the mind.<p>I usually eat lunch at my desk, which annoys me, because I always want to socialize and be better at that. I don&#x27;t find it easy to do this since the days are so busy.<p>I&#x27;m a product manager, so I spend much of my days in meetings that are a mix of working sessions, scoping exercises, communications with external clients, and team-focused meetings.<p>On the days I don&#x27;t have any meetings (they do exist), I zone out and get some work done. Lately I&#x27;ve been focusing on the DevOps for our team.
donatjabout 8 years ago
It really depends on the day. Sometimes I&#x27;ve got basically nothing to do whereas other times I&#x27;m overloaded and there basically isn&#x27;t a moment I&#x27;m not. It&#x27;s hard to figure an average.
ivmabout 8 years ago
Working from home. Last month I tracked 270h on my Mac workstation: 190 hours (70%) were productive, 24h (9%) neutral tools, and 56h (21%) distracting (mostly chats with friends).<p>I also spend 1-2 hours a day on my &quot;leisure laptop&quot; (for example reading HN from there but also some useful RSS feeds). So it feels like 65% would be a correct productivity score.<p>Tracked with <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;qotoqot.com&#x2F;qbserve&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;qotoqot.com&#x2F;qbserve&#x2F;</a> of course, most of the productive time was spent on its development and marketing. :]
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qrybamabout 8 years ago
Busy day = only when I go to the toilet<p>Quiet day = maybe half my time<p>Most of my days are busy; if I&#x27;m not busy with my main work then I&#x27;ll be busy making the more mundane aspects of my job disappear into the background.<p><i>edit: formatting</i>
jpindarabout 8 years ago
It depends on how talkative my coworkers are that day.
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workthrowaway19about 8 years ago
Probably 25% on the average day. Occasionally 0%. There are entire days that I&#x27;ll spend working on nothing but side projects, but our company is getting big so no one notices or cares. Sometimes I work from home just so I don&#x27;t have to do anything other than be around for a couple meetings.<p>The bigger we get the more lawyers and compliance people we ad, and the less noticeable it is that I&#x27;m not doing shit.
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mdlapabout 8 years ago
I use RescueTime. Productive time is about 90% each month.<p>The reality is that 100% of my time, if meetings are included, is productive (excluding minimal breaks).<p>I feel sorry for the people trying to run businesses with all of these employees not working.<p>I&#x27;m a QA engineer. The most experienced QA engineer on a 3-person team (the other two have either more experience with testing but less with development, or vice-versa). I have waaaaay too much to do to get away with not working.<p>I do empathise with those for whom maintaining a high level of productivity is impossible because of how demanding their work is. I&#x27;m fortunate that I have so many different tasks to perform that if I don&#x27;t have the energy to concentrate on something demanding, I can switch to something fairly basic.<p>I&#x27;m also fortunate in that, for me, problem solving activities are almost always energising. So if I feel like I&#x27;m getting burnt out I can dive into one of the tricky but non-urgent problems I hadn&#x27;t got around to yet.
Jemaclusabout 8 years ago
I consider myself rather productive compared to most devs I&#x27;ve worked with. On a good day, I spend 75% of my day &quot;working&quot;. On a normal day, it&#x27;s closer to 50&#x2F;50. I&#x27;m a tech manager, though, so the &quot;good&quot; days are when I&#x27;m really busy all day long, and the &quot;normal&quot; days are when I spend most of my time coding. Like others have said, it&#x27;s really difficult to do more than 4 hours of solid coding in a day, particularly if you&#x27;re interrupted frequently like I am.<p>That said, I don&#x27;t necessarily care that much about the hours my employees work, so long as they meet the deadlines and are reasonably productive. I have a good idea of how long a task takes, so if they take too much longer than that, we&#x27;ll have a chat. Otherwise, I just want to make sure they&#x27;re happy and not burnt out and staying as productive as possible.
AnimalMuppetabout 8 years ago
Do you count meetings as &quot;work&quot;, or as &quot;not work&quot;? (I don&#x27;t spend much times in meetings at my current job, thankfully, so it doesn&#x27;t change the question for me.)<p>Honestly, my best guess is 50%, or close. I still get my work done as fast as everyone else, though. No complaints on performance reviews.
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mattbgatesabout 8 years ago
Definitely depends on the day.. some days I&#x27;m working the entire shift, other days I get paid to just sit here and work on my side projects. I work for for a project-based department and with that comes deadlines that could mean I have to be done within 3-6 hours which can be stressful.<p>While our company goes with the rest of the world, I wish the company would consider 10 hour days 4 days a week, with half the department working in the earlier part of the week, and the other half working the later half of the week instead of all of us working the traditional 8 hour days 5 days a week.<p>So I make the best of it and enjoy those days where I do mostly nothing the entire time. But I&#x27;m never not doing anything.. I build web apps and run a popular website, so I&#x27;m always kept busy.
milkytronabout 8 years ago
I recently started my first full time job associated with my career. I&#x27;d say I spend between 65-80% either doing my work or something related to it such as training or reading documentation (which take up about 20% of my time at the moment).
CGamesPlayabout 8 years ago
According to RescueTime, I spend around 83% of my screen time on &quot;productive&quot; things. My total screen time averages about 25 hours &#x2F; week, whereas my at-work time is roughly closer to double that. I&#x27;d say that 67% of my off-screen at-work time is &quot;productive&quot; meetings and the other third is things like lunch, walks, etc.<p>Putting this all together, I spend 37.5 hours &#x2F; week productively and 12.5 hours &#x2F; week at work slacking off (or doing human things like eating and pooping). So call it 75% productive time.<p>I generally enjoy my job. I&#x27;ve counted writing this post &#x2F; assembling this data as &quot;not productive&quot; time.
ChuckMcMabout 8 years ago
It is an interesting question which, in my opinion, hinges entirely on a fairly puritanical notion of &#x27;work.&#x27;<p>One of my &#x27;problems&#x27; is that I can&#x27;t &quot;not work&quot; in the sense of a laborer who is no longer building widgets. As a person who is asked to solve complex problems with a high degree of dimensionality inside of an arbitrarily constrained solution space, much of the &#x27;work&#x27; I do consists of turning the problem over and over in my head while I explore the solution space.<p>A good example of this was an early review I got at Intel by my manager (a really solid EE type guy). He added some criticism of my time management (considered a &#x27;ding&#x27; in the vernacular) for a embedded compiler&#x2F;assembler&#x2F;driver thing I wrote as part of the evaluation of a graphics processor. He said I had &#x27;sand bagged&#x27; the time estimate.<p>When I asked him to describe that a bit more he explained that I had told him it would take 6 months to do, and it was 2 weeks late, and I had spent 5 months &quot;goofing off and not working&quot; and then about 6 weeks doing the work. So my estimate should really have been &#x27;8 weeks&#x27; and if I had started on time it would have been done two weeks earlier than that.<p>I thought about that for a long time. And explained to him the for five months I had no idea what the best way to write the software was, and in that five months I had learned about 8 different technologies that all came together into the final solution. I had to learn how to write device drivers in Xenix, how to map I&#x2F;O space memory into the kernel, design a language which was human understandable and could be compiled into the odd little RISC instruction set of the Graphics chip. And until I had figured out all of that precursor information, I didn&#x27;t have a clue how it would be written, but then after figuring out that information actually writing the code was fairly mechanical.<p>In this one case the problem was that hardware has so many great milestones you can call out, parts captured, schematics done, netlists verified, layout started, design rule verification, first films, films checked, first boards, boards checked, first assembly. Bringup in stages 1, 2, and 3 etc. All along the way there are pleasant milestones to say &quot;this is done&quot; now on to the next thing.<p>But software is <i>never</i> like that for building something that nobody has ever built before. And it is even rarely like that when you have the same software but you are building it on a different system. The linkages, the entanglement between the system and the software (and now the network and the services) makes each new implementation its own special snowflake, with its own kinds of problems.<p>Have you ever woken up and &quot;knew&quot; the solution to a tricky software issue? Or had an idea for a change to an existing system that might make it better? That happens to me all the time when I&#x27;m designing stuff. And a case could be made that I&#x27;m working even when I&#x27;m asleep! Not because I&#x27;m sitting there typing in lines of code but because I&#x27;m going through the solution space, somewhere in my subconscious, looking for clues to places that hold better answers than the answer that is currently checked into the git repository.<p>As a result I tend to measure my own productivity by &#x27;solutions over unit time&#x27; versus &#x27;hours typing into employer owned equipment&#x27;. It still bites me from time to time when a supervisor needs a constant stream of &#x27;still flying&#x27; type status messages to feel comfortable.
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fatherofoneabout 8 years ago
Depends what you mean by work? I&#x27;m reading an article on Async with C#, that&#x27;s not coding but is work.<p>I watch some videos on latest tech, thats work too....<p>Only thing that matters is if have I completed tasks in my sprint or are there any critical issues
hfourmabout 8 years ago
Reasonably ~5 hours of coding, maybe sometimes less on days with a lot of meetings.<p>Rest of time on HN, reading, or admin type stuff (planning, ticket &amp; branch management), and of course meetings
halisabout 8 years ago
I have my days where literally ZERO gets done. On days like that, if I can put together a PR with two lines of code, it&#x27;s a win.<p>However, most days, probably 4.5 out of 5 on average, I am super productive, taking very few breaks aside from lunch.<p>In a typical day I probably get 5-6 hours of solid work done. But there is a downside too.<p>In order to achieve this, I sometimes skip meetings and ignore requests from other people.<p>I am considered a high performer and seem to be an anomaly to most people.
1_playerabout 8 years ago
99% of my 5 hour day. Because I discovered I can&#x27;t usually stay in flow mode for more than 5 hours, so I get in the office around 12pm and leave around 5.30pm
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rstuart4133about 8 years ago
Does depend on what you call &quot;working&quot;. I deem the time I spent on tech sites like HN as working. So does my boss. He similarly considers the time I spend at the odd tech conference working. There are good reasons for this - I drive change around here, and most of that change originates from exposure to ideas from those sources.<p>If you could that (and I do), I&#x27;d say at least 75% of my time is spent working.
callesggabout 8 years ago
Depends how you want to define work.<p>I think of stuff that is beneficial to the company in one way or another like 95% of the time.<p>Re structuring thoughts, digesting ideas.... talking to others to understand how they think.<p>But if someone that did not know me came and looked at what i did during work hours and did not get to ask questions to me. I would assume they would think that i only worked 20-25% of the time.<p>Things are not always what they seem.
nickrivadeneiraabout 8 years ago
I&#x27;m surprised by the responses here. I didn&#x27;t think it was as prevalent as comments suggest. At the beginning of my career it was probably around 50%, though after spending two years at a consulting company, it&#x27;s dropped to 5-10% maximum. I find that reducing interruption and having music going keeps me engaged.
5_minutesabout 8 years ago
Days at the office mean meetings and socializing. Its not really working but hey I get paid.<p>Working from home is getting things done.
jarbootabout 8 years ago
90%, not including lunch.<p>The other 10% is making tea and drinking some, usually looking out the window or chatting with someone.
nunezabout 8 years ago
These days less than 10%. I take lunch and a coffee break or two though.<p>I used to read reddit and hn to saturation on many days before getting into consulting; these days, i hardly read anything until before or after my core hours, not because i can&#x27;t but because there is more interesting work to do
MileyCyraxabout 8 years ago
At least 90%. If I&#x27;m at work and not working, I&#x27;m usually working on one of my own projects.
ajmurmannabout 8 years ago
Not counting lunch break, I&#x27;d say I probably spend ~90-95% working.
KerryJonesabout 8 years ago
When I worked for other companies I would say I worked around 70% of the time I was &quot;working&quot;. When working for myself I think I am putting 60-80 hours of real work in a week.
glennsantosabout 8 years ago
I only spend around 5-15% of my time at work, not working.<p>Work in my context is time spent on things I planned to do and want to do, including the small breaks I take to recharge and socialize.
krystiangwabout 8 years ago
I believe I&#x27;m productive for about 70% of the time. I&#x27;m most distracted when I&#x27;m swiching to other project. I need to re-focus again.
smilesndabout 8 years ago
100% of the time, because I do what I love.
brentmabout 8 years ago
My number are all over the place but according to WakaTime about 152 hours last month was spent in the IDE.
ubersecabout 8 years ago
aderall keeps me going anyways. probably 2-4 hours depending on the day.
ivrrimumabout 8 years ago
0%. I work as a upwork freelancer. More precisely by hourly rate and upwork desktop app takes screenshots at random times, so i can&#x27;t really browse HN and other sites. But I will tell you honestly, i don&#x27;t want to go back to normal work. I get shit done( there is also that &quot;gambler&quot; feeling, when you see how much money you earn each week ) and in good quality( I get reviews from my clients, so i can&#x27;t code bad either ).<p>So yeah, a hour paid is a hour worked.
doucheabout 8 years ago
If I have to go to the office: maybe 2 hours a day of actual productive work.<p>If I work from home: usually 4-6 hours of productive work.<p>Going to the office adds up to a ten-hour day, with the commute. Working from home is usually a 6-7 hour day, and I get to stay in my pajamas, take the dog for a walk, take a break to do some housework, and be in a comfortable environment.<p>I don&#x27;t work from home enough anymore.