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Robot Is A Hijacked Word

49 pointsby mayavaabout 8 years ago

16 comments

skywhopperabout 8 years ago
This is how language works. Words get tweaked, re-purposed, misunderstood, munged, combined, slurred, abused, enriched, extended, negated, confused, and broken. It's very likely you are the only person with your particular perception of any particular word and all of its connotations. But the rest of the world doesn't care. Life and language move on and evolve with or without your own favorite semantics. You can embrace and enjoy the change or whine and complain, but it will happen. Better to enjoy the ride.
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interfixusabout 8 years ago
Soften the R-phoneme into an L-ish one, or harsh the L into an R, and maybe pronounce it a bit more Russian than Czech: &#x27;Robot&#x27; is not a Slavonic root, it is a close cousin of the Latin &#x27;labor&#x27;. Swap vowel and consonant in the first syllable: See, that&#x27;s German &#x27;arbeit&#x27; (&#x27;work&#x27;). A robot is a worker, the word is ancient and Indoeuropean.<p>Also: I am clearly not a linguist.
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PhasmaFelisabout 8 years ago
I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s actually been hijacked at all, not like &quot;hacker&quot;. If you say &quot;I build robots&quot;, most people are going to understand that to mean electromechanical machines, not chatbots or webcrawlers. All it takes is context.
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Animatsabout 8 years ago
The second hijacking is mostly &quot;bot&quot;, not &quot;robot&quot;.<p>For real hijacking, there&#x27;s &quot;android&quot;. An android is a humanoid robot, not a mobile telephone.
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satori99about 8 years ago
So is <i>computer</i>.<p>It too, used to refer to a person, rather than a machine. (albeit a long time ago).<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.etymonline.com&#x2F;index.php?term=computer" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.etymonline.com&#x2F;index.php?term=computer</a>
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stevenringoabout 8 years ago
Robot is also the word used for traffic lights in South Africa: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;boards.straightdope.com&#x2F;sdmb&#x2F;showthread.php?t=387828" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;boards.straightdope.com&#x2F;sdmb&#x2F;showthread.php?t=387828</a>
SagelyGuruabout 8 years ago
There is nothing particularly remarkable about Czech&#x2F;Slavonic word &quot;robota&quot; (serfdom) being mentioned in English as a technical term for the system in force in Austria (and the Czech lands), nine years before it was abolished. In some countries it continued even longer.<p>Undoubtedly Čapek had chosen that word for a good reason.<p>However, to make up some kind of thesis that this mention of serfdom in 1839 was therefore the first appearance of &quot;Robot&quot; in English is just one convolution too far. One could argue more logically, that the first appearance of &quot;Robot&quot; was in old Slavonic around 700 AD or earlier. Perhaps a few thousand years earlier in its Sanskrit form. Though, surely, that is not the point here.<p>The point is that it was Čapek in 1921 who first applied it in the context of some kind of &quot;soulless servant&quot; and thus created its modern usage.
helbabout 8 years ago
&gt; According to this report the word “robot” first appeared in English in 1839. 1839!<p>There are some appearances even before that: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;books.google.com&#x2F;ngrams&#x2F;graph?direct_url=t1%3B%2Crobot%3B%2Cc0" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;books.google.com&#x2F;ngrams&#x2F;graph?direct_url=t1%3B%2Crob...</a> But everything before 1920s seems to be a little more than just statistical&#x2F;parsing error.<p>&gt; […] but rather to a system, a “central European system of serfdom, by which a tenant’s rent was paid in forced labour or service”<p>Yeah, this is pretty much exactly what &quot;robota&quot; means in Czech. The most accurate English word i found for it is &quot;socage&quot;: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Socage" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Socage</a>
oneeyedpigeonabout 8 years ago
A few years ago, I wrote a parser for some data in a loosely structured format. Its input was a google doc and its output was html, ready for copy+pasting into our CMS. The writers who produced the input took to calling it a &#x27;robot&#x27; and the term stuck. As the sole &#x27;technical&#x27; person in the company, I just had to suck it up and accept this horrendous misuse of the term. Unfortunately, it&#x27;s not the only instance of this kind of thing; if you&#x27;re a programmer working in a team consisting solely of non-programmers, you end up developing a pretty thick skin for all sorts of stuff, of which iceberg, language misuse is just the tip!
cocktailpeanutsabout 8 years ago
This is nothing compared to &quot;Hoverboard&quot;. That thing doesn&#x27;t even hover!
flohofwoeabout 8 years ago
&gt; the word robot comes from an old Church Slavonic word, robota, meaning “servitude”, “forced labor”, or “drudgery”<p>I&#x27;m not a native Russian speaker, but isn&#x27;t the normal word for &#x27;work&#x27; Rabota, and for &#x27;worker&#x27; Rabotnik, without the negative connotation (forced labour, etc) implied by the article? At least that&#x27;s how I also remember it from school.<p>So Robot just means &#x27;worker&#x27;, which IMHO makes a lot of sense.
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stillsutabout 8 years ago
Ornithopter -&gt; RC helicopter -&gt; Quad[copter] -&gt; Multi-rotor -&gt; Drone ...<p>which can be a $50 toy, a $5,000 photography machine, or $50 Million killing machine. bicycle -&gt; cycle -&gt; bike ... which can be a motorcycle too. Seems the trend is toward simple mono-syllabic words with high ambiguity in their meaning. Predict we end up with &#x27;bot&#x27; when they are a part of everyday life.
bltabout 8 years ago
I&#x27;m more annoyed at how certain popular kind of robots get removed from the class &quot;robots&quot; and given their own names. For example, people think of autonomous cars as their own thing even though all the technology behind autonomous driving came from robotics. Same for aerial robots -&gt; &quot;drones&quot;, etc.
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jordighabout 8 years ago
Wait, someone (Disney?) is defending a trademark on &quot;droid&quot;? That seems pretty silly. Then again, I do think of Star Wars when I think &quot;droid&quot;, so maybe they have a good case for defending that trademark. Still, it seems to be close enough to being generic that we should fight it.
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rbanffyabout 8 years ago
As an aside, the &quot;Robots Return&quot; story is totally worth reading.
sjcsjcabout 8 years ago
Language is constantly changing in all sorts of ways, and lots of people dislike that fact.<p>This might be slightly off topic, but I highly recommend the first chapter of R L Trask&#x27;s Historical Linguistics [0] which is a very entertaining overview of how language changes over time.<p>He starts with the example of the word &quot;bonk&quot; which after 1986 meant &quot;copulate&quot; but prior to then meant nothing of the kind.<p>He also discusses the modern [ab]use of the word &quot;hopefully&quot;, as in for example: &quot;hopefully we&#x27;ll be there in time for lunch&quot;:<p>&quot;Here is what Mr Philip Howard, a well-known writer on language, has to say about it: he describes this use of hopefully as &#x27;objectionable&#x27;, &#x27;ambiguous&#x27;, &#x27;obscure&#x27;, &#x27;ugly&#x27;, &#x27;aberrant&#x27;, &#x27;pretentious&#x27;, and &#x27;illiterate&#x27;; finally, playing his ace, he asserts that it was &#x27;introduced by sloppy American academics&#x27;&quot;<p>He then goes on to point out that &quot;In spite of the vitriol which hopefully has attracted, then, this word provides us with a neat and elegant way of saying &#x27;I hope and expect that&#x27;, something that we couldn&#x27;t say before without using a whole cumbersome string of words.&quot;<p>He goes on:<p>&quot;Lest you suspect that my example of &#x27;hopefully&#x27; might be an atypical case, let&#x27;s look at something quite different. Consider these examples:<p>&quot;My car is being repaired My house is being painted This problem is being discussed at today&#x27;s meeting.<p>&quot;Anything strange here? I doubt it - I don&#x27;t think there&#x27;s an English-speaker alive who regards these as other than normal.<p>&quot;But it wasn&#x27;t always so. Until the end of the eighteenth century, this particular construction did not exist in standard English, and an English-speaker would have had to say &quot;My car is repairing&quot;, &quot;My house is painting&quot;, and &quot;This problem is discussing at today&#x27;s meeting&quot; - forms which are absolutely impossible for us now.<p>&quot;... when a few innovating speakers began to say things like &quot;My house is being painted&quot;, the linguistic conservatives of the day could not contain their fury. Veins bulging purply from their foreheads, the attacked the new construction as &#x27;clumsy&#x27;, &#x27;illogical&#x27;, &#x27;confusing&#x27;, and &#x27;monstrous&#x27;.<p>&quot;But their efforts were in vain. Today all those who objected to the &#x27;illogical&#x27; and &#x27;monstrous&#x27; new form are long dead, and the traditional form which they defended with such passion is dead with them.&quot;<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.co.uk&#x2F;Trasks-Historical-Linguistics-Robert-Mccoll&#x2F;dp&#x2F;0340927658" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.co.uk&#x2F;Trasks-Historical-Linguistics-Rober...</a> (this is the second edition - my copy is the first and I don&#x27;t know if the first chapter is changed)