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Video on DSLRs: why I don't care

42 pointsby mhwalmost 15 years ago

15 comments

dtfalmost 15 years ago
Ken makes good points, but don't think for a moment that DSLR video isn't going places.<p>Sam Nicholson, for instance, has Canon's R&#38;D people at his disposal. They furnish him with nice shiny things like HDMI monitor output and manual focus over bluetooth:<p><a href="http://www.definitionmagazine.com/journal/2010/5/22/hollywood-squeeze-more-out-of-canons-5d-mkii.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.definitionmagazine.com/journal/2010/5/22/hollywoo...</a><p>Suddenly focus pulls become something you can set up on your iPhone. The rest of us can only drool and hope this will make its way into the kit soon.
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abstractbillalmost 15 years ago
I was a bit surprised he didn't mention the actual reason I still have to carry both a DSLR and a camcorder. Most (all?) DSLRs use a CMOS sensor, which often (always?) results in jello-effect video (see e.g. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bItYdfn-C0o" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bItYdfn-C0o</a>). My camcorder has a CCD sensor instead, which doesn't suffer from this.<p>I fully expect it to get better soon though (if it hasn't already on some models - are there any DSLRs that somehow don't suffer from jello-effect video?).
merrick33almost 15 years ago
I have a Canon 7d that takes beautiful video. I spent a fair amount of time learning to make beautiful videos with it, and I also spent a fair amount of money buying low light lenses, filters (vari nd filter), and still need to buy audio (zoom h4n), steadycam (zacuto) and follow focus gear. The thing is, I intend to make a documentary so I do want it to be as good as I can possibly make it so I will end up spending an additional $1k-2k on top of the camera body depending on the gear I end up going with.<p>Having said that, the target market for a cheap Canon DSLR (parents) with the stock lens and nothing more than a tripod should be very happy with the flexibility of carrying one camera for stills and video, and the results they get on video should be very close to a a similarly priced camcorder.<p>Here is an example of why. I was at a ballet recital on Saturday and a father was filming his daughter with a $900 Canon T2i camera on a tripod and his video will likely look better than on a comparable Canon camcorder because the light was not changing, his subject was at the same focal distance and his camera was mounted on a tripod. That eliminates almost all of the manual control variables that require more equipment except for one - audio. A $99 audio device can fix that if it matters to you.<p>On the flip side, the DSLR gives you full manual controls and the ability to shoot in low light with possibly a cheap $100 Canon 50mm f/1.8.<p>Here are two videos shot with DSLR's that can show you the range of these DSLR's:<p>Alexandra (1 camera body, lens, and monopod) <a href="http://vimeo.com/6854556" rel="nofollow">http://vimeo.com/6854556</a><p>Salton Sea (1 camera body, lots of lenses and fancy equipment) <a href="http://vimeo.com/10314280" rel="nofollow">http://vimeo.com/10314280</a><p>Video DSLR's will replace camcorders eventually. In the meantime they can be useful in that they take both stills and video, and etter yet they are the best thing that happened to independent film makers.<p>UPDATE: Another comments points to a post on Philip Bloom's site about which DSLR to purchase. Philips site is full of very helpful information, the Salton Sea video linked to above is his.<p><a href="http://philipbloom.net/2010/06/06/whichdslr/" rel="nofollow">http://philipbloom.net/2010/06/06/whichdslr/</a>
leviathantalmost 15 years ago
I recorded a concert my wife conducted using a borrowed $4,000 Sony HD camcorder that looked really sharp and shot nicely in low light. I could never justify spending $4,000 on a camera that I'll probably use 10-20 times, but I also didn't like the idea of buying a sub $1000 1080p video camera that had crappy low light shooting.<p>Enter the T2i. $830 (for the kit, with Bing cashback, RIP) and it shoots even BETTER video than the $4000 video camera. For the pieces my wife writes, I'm usually on a tripod doing a wide shot anyway, and I'm usually indoors where it's low light, and the results from the T2i are stellar.<p>Unfortunately, being a "still camera that also does video" it does have it's drawbacks. I can't hit record, then leave it for an hour... it only shoots about 12 minutes of 1080 footage at a time, and the last time I shot about 45 minutes of footage, I started to get overheating warnings on the camera.<p>Nonetheless... this is the beginning of something awesome. Professional video is about to go the way professional audio went.
rdoublealmost 15 years ago
These party videos are from the first time I used my 7D. Even though the focus is wack I was pretty excited about the quality of this video. This is after filming skateboard videos for years using VX2000s and the like.<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/rdouble/videos" rel="nofollow">http://vimeo.com/rdouble/videos</a><p>I've since got a special lens and a Zacuto z-finder and have been very happy with the results after practicing a bit more.<p>Philip Bloom's blog is an essential resource and he just wrote an article about what DSLR to buy for video:<p><a href="http://philipbloom.net/2010/06/06/whichdslr/" rel="nofollow">http://philipbloom.net/2010/06/06/whichdslr/</a>
edkennedyalmost 15 years ago
Ken Rockwell is a contrarian, and that's what I like about him. However, I took his advice on buying a camera once and ended up with a fiddly touch screen camera that I found out I did not enjoy once I got home from my vacation. In his writings he prefers ease of use to complexity of control. I have seen some great videos done with the 5D's manual focus, like on Canon's Beyond The Still contest. <a href="http://vimeo.com/groups/beyondthestill" rel="nofollow">http://vimeo.com/groups/beyondthestill</a>
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hopalmost 15 years ago
Just got a Canon T2i dslr last week and the video quality is amazing - an order of magnitude beyond any consumer video camera I have used - highly recommend going to a store to try it for yourself. Here are some samples on vim - <a href="http://vimeo.com/videos/search:T2i" rel="nofollow">http://vimeo.com/videos/search:T2i</a> Shoots 1080 at 60fps, the depth of field makes incredible shots and you can film well at night. I'm sure autofocus on a $250k video camera is great, but this is only $800 - you can probably afford to do another take if you don't like the first and maybe buy a decent house to go with it.<p>I'm currently machining a Merlin type zero g holder like this <a href="http://vimeo.com/3803065" rel="nofollow">http://vimeo.com/3803065</a>
commienekoalmost 15 years ago
I haven't kept up with developments like this over the last couple of years, but I have done a lot of commercial and personal video. The new DSLRs with video seem like a great addition to anyone's tool set.<p>Question: _Regular_ video cameras don't allow "through the lens" focusing either. You focus by looking through an electronic view finder or by watching a monitor hooked up to an external video source from the camera. Is there not such for the DSLRs? If not, hey, great market opportunity...
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sajidalmost 15 years ago
I always wondered how they shot the season finale of House MD with a Canon 5D, now I know.<p>Summary: DSLRs can't autofocus when shooting video. On movie sets there are people hired to pull focus manually, so it's not a problem for Hollywood. <i>You</i> are better off using a camcorder or even a compact camera.
DanielBMarkhamalmost 15 years ago
Some good points.<p>Video through DSLRs is not there yet. But it does work in some situations. Since image quality is most associated with lenses, if they get all the bugs worked out video DSLR should be a dramatic improvement over the average flipcam (and you're not taking my flipcam away from me!)<p>Different tools for different things. Wait for version 3.
zokieralmost 15 years ago
"If something moves, you need a focus puller and a special rig with special Hollywood focusing hardware to shoot with a DSLR.<p>DSLR video is for serious professional production, which is why you'll see it promoted as being used on big productions."<p>So amateur/indie film makers cannot use manual focus. Riiiight.
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rrhynealmost 15 years ago
For what it's worth, I know personally Ken does very well financially with his 1994 website.
edkennedyalmost 15 years ago
Here's a Canon with iPad software that manually does the follow focus <a href="http://vimeo.com/12182384" rel="nofollow">http://vimeo.com/12182384</a>
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wglbalmost 15 years ago
An excellent article with detail on video shooting and how hollywood is different than shooting a wedding.
moron4hirealmost 15 years ago
I've been encountering Ken Rockwell's diatribes against digital photography for years. He's a stuck-in-the-mud traditionalist who is secretly afraid that the ever increasing accessibility of newer technology is going to put him out of business.
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