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Alphabet claims Uber was hiding the self-driving tech that it allegedly copied

152 pointsby flinnerabout 8 years ago

10 comments

mstankabout 8 years ago
Can&#x27;t say I&#x27;m shocked to see Uber&#x27;s dishonesty here. From all the other claims against them (Lyft and sexual harassment) it seems like this type of behavior is standard operating procedure.<p>This culture is set from the top. It&#x27;s only a matter of time that Travis will step down. Sooner the better so they can start working on improving integrity throughout the organization.<p>In the 90&#x27;s, Microsoft was skewered for a lot less.
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burntrelish1273about 8 years ago
Let&#x27;s not jump to conclusions: Waymo maybe looking to sharp-elbow into ride-sharing. These are still allegations and there&#x27;s no verdict&#x2F;settlement yet.<p>In general, the bigger the venture, the bigger the damage of acting dishonestly and the bigger the bulls&#x27; eye for lawsuits painted on the side. Uber, being the category first-mover, is going to attract a lot of hate by being giant and uncool, even without the political endorsements.<p>It would be great if Lyft, Uber and Waymo did ride-sharing and were as honest&#x2F;socially-responsible as possible. That would be better competition for selfish passengers like me. I prefer Lyft these days but may look at Uber again if they show they a consistent pattern of honorable behavior.
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mannykannotabout 8 years ago
I know the law has a complicated relationship with logic, but in normal usage, Uber&#x27;s claim that it is no longer interested in LIDAR, even if taken at face value, clearly has no bearing on the question of whether it was party to an earlier theft of LIDAR-related documents.
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OliverJonesabout 8 years ago
Just an observation .... locating the 20th century car industry in Detroit gave them an unfair advantage over California. Cars have to function correctly in bad weather -- rain, ice, snow, etc.<p>Taxicabs especially. Imagine a transport system in a city like New York or DC where taxis don&#x27;t function in a rainstorm. It&#x27;s in bad weather that drivers earn their pay.<p>I know from experience that the Tesla driver assistance stuff doesn&#x27;t work in the rain. It won&#x27;t engage. &quot;Can&#x27;t see well enough&quot; is what it says.<p>Maybe these Sili Valley types should stop fighting over fair-weather car control stuff, and spend the same money setting up development shops somewhere besides endless-summer California.<p>Patents only last 20 years. It&#x27;s going to take 30 to convert the transport network.
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SCAQTonyabout 8 years ago
In the past year have we ever gone a single month without hearing about malfeasance, exploitation or sexual harassment within that company?<p>April alone has tabloid month!<p>Perhaps Uber&#x27;s CEO should resign so the company can get some breathing room and reboot their brand.
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nojvekabout 8 years ago
I see Uber as our generation&#x27;s Groupon. Wildly overvalued slowly heading to a cliff.
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electricloveabout 8 years ago
&quot;In the latest filing, Alphabet says Uber hid a lidar device Levandowski designed based on these files. The company says Uber obfuscated the existence of a piece of lidar technology at an April 12 hearing.<p>Uber denies this and says it eventually produced the device in question. &quot;
revelationabout 8 years ago
Is the docket for this available somewhere? I hate reports that won&#x27;t link (or provide) the original source.
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bichiliadabout 8 years ago
I&#x27;m a bit confused — has anything developed since the lawsuit was filed in late February[0]?<p>[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.documentcloud.org&#x2F;documents&#x2F;3474305-1-Main.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.documentcloud.org&#x2F;documents&#x2F;3474305-1-Main.html</a>
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nullcabout 8 years ago
Is it the secret of embedding lidar at the trailer hitch in your cars so that it&#x27;s sure to get smashed if someone rear ends you?