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Evidence-based advice we've found on how to be successful in a job

693 pointsby robertwiblinabout 8 years ago

33 comments

cJ0thabout 8 years ago
Berthold Brecht once said:&quot;The opposite of good is not evil, it&#x27;s good intention&quot;. Unfortunately, this article is filled to the brim with good intentions.<p>If I could talk to my 20 year old self I would recommend this: Stay away from the Internet as much as possible and don&#x27;t look for general advice.<p>Most information is of little use no matter whether it&#x27;s right, wrong, deep, entertaining, scientific, religious, whatever... Many may realize that but they continue to consume. The common trap is that most of us think there is no downside to consuming information and this, in my humble opinion is a huge mistake! It seems to me that the more stuff we shovel into our heads, the less able we are to get active. There is constantly such a long queue of inputs our brain wants to process that we have little energy left to actually develop intentions. When intention crystallize, motivation follows and so does action. I&#x27;d argue that people of average intelligence are not lacking success because they miss precious advice. It&#x27;s because they don&#x27;t actually have intentions! They can&#x27;t allow themselves (mainly for financial oder societal reason, I assume) to relax and wait for curiosity to kick in. Instead they have it backwards: They hear about people who are having a career, they hear about others forming families, they hear the news telling them how the IOT is the future, they read up on cool stuff on wikipedia, read the biographies of celebreties, random stuff on reddit, they read career advice .... And then, from all that garbage, they try to deduce what to do. In most cases, that doesn&#x27;t truly work because the result is not in line with their natural appetites and abilities.
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adamredwoodsabout 8 years ago
&quot;Much other advice is just one person’s opinion, or useless clichés.&quot;<p>This article is similar to just that: useless clichés. I clicked to read more about the evidence backing up each item, but it&#x27;s only in the footnotes? In other words, the footnotes are MUCH more interesting than the article.
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lucb1eabout 8 years ago
&gt; The world’s ten largest urban economic regions hold only 6.5% of the world’s population, but account for 57% of patented innovations, 53% of the most cited scientists and 43% of economic output. That means the people in these regions are about eight times more productive than the average person.<p>Wow, they probably have no idea where their bananas come from. More productive than the average person if you look at scientific output only, but science is what improves our lives in the long run. The rest of the population does the work that needs doing to stay alive.
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hedgewabout 8 years ago
The amount of low-quality, negative comments here is surprising. I read the whole article carefully and it seems quite reasonable.
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Gustomaximusabout 8 years ago
How is this voted to second place on front page? Feels like Reddit where people obviously vote on the headline before reading the article.<p>A side point form this, it would be interesting if HN&#x2F;Reddit or other platforms brought in a quality score to peoples upvotes to negate people who do tend to upvote catchy headlines.<p>That or 287 people other than me found this article interesting and useful...
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BenjaminToddabout 8 years ago
Hey, I&#x27;m the author of the post. Happy to take questions, and keen to hear ideas about what else we might add.
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tryitnowabout 8 years ago
This is a pretty disappointing list.<p>First, the items do not tend to be mutually exclusive - there&#x27;s a lot of overlap with each other. I interpret that as a sign of poor organization. It makes the whole thing hard to follow.<p>Second, most of this stuff isn&#x27;t remotely evidence based! Plus, there&#x27;s no way to understand the effect size even when some technique does have evidence supporting it.<p>Overall, this is too much of a data dump to be helpful. The author should have ranked ordered these items based on the cumulative evidence supporting each one - that would have been extremely useful.
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thepropabout 8 years ago
One of the most important determiners of whether you&#x27;re happy and satisfied in your job is your commute time. Happiness, job satisfaction and longevity at your job decrease significantly as your commute time extends more than 20 minutes.
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rawlandabout 8 years ago
BenjaminTood, thank you for this guide. It definitively paints a picture where society is heading.<p><pre><code> Naturally comes the question: Where does the guide guide you to? To what person does it guide you? </code></pre> Everything about this reminded me of the movie The Ticket, where the previously truly blind main character becomes <i>blinded by the superficial in his pursuit of &quot;The Successful Life&quot;</i>.<p>What world is this, in which every human interaction happens in background of some kind of utility function?<p>In the end we all want to be happy, right? Numerous studies find, that &#x27;the most salient characteristics shared by students who were very happy and showed the fewest signs of depression were &quot;their strong ties to friends and family and commitment to spending time with them.&quot; (&quot;The New Science of Happiness,&quot; Claudia Wallis, Time Magazine, Jan. 09, 2005).&#x27; [1]<p>I&#x27;m very sorry to say this: sadly enough, it&#x27;s not how good you perform, but where you are born, what has the biggest impact on your career. [2]<p>From the About page of 80000hours:<p><pre><code> Our aim is to help as many people as possible lead high-impact careers. We do this by providing career advice for talented young people who want to have a social impact. Over a third of young graduates want to make a difference with their careers,1 but they have little idea what to do </code></pre> Maybe that&#x27;s the main problem here? &quot;[Having] little idea what to do&quot;. Being raised as sheep doesn&#x27;t really teach you, how to stand for your own ideals.<p>And that&#x27;s why I&#x27;m proud of HN. Because we are!<p>Sources:<p>[1]: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pursuit-of-happiness.org&#x2F;science-of-happiness&#x2F;communicating&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pursuit-of-happiness.org&#x2F;science-of-happiness&#x2F;com...</a><p>[2]: In Germany 85% of all chairmen are emerging from the upper 3.5% (income-wise) families [3]. This is especially remarkable as it&#x27;s only a very thin slice, which makes up basically everybody in these positions. These upper 3.5% want you to become as high-performing as possible. Guess, why?<p>[3]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.de&#x2F;Gestatten-Elite-Spuren-M%C3%A4chtigen-morgen&#x2F;dp&#x2F;345550051X" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.de&#x2F;Gestatten-Elite-Spuren-M%C3%A4chtigen-...</a>
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orasisabout 8 years ago
&quot;Your location is important in many other ways. One survey of 20,000 people in the US found that satisfaction with location was a major component of life satisfaction.10<p>This is because where you live determines many important aspects of your life. It determines the types of people you’ll spend time with. It determines your day-to-day environment and commute.&quot;<p>So much this. I moved to a town with much higher quality people and my happiness has taken a big positive bump.
henryajabout 8 years ago
I like this a lot - a nice balance of strongly evidence-based ways of being happier and more productive, and a summary of more anecdotal (but likely still useful) self-help techniques. To those kvetching about the latter, I think they&#x27;re still valuable - particularly as it saves me wading through hundreds of self-help books for the occasional gem.
Asdfblaabout 8 years ago
While probably not wrong, such lists about how to optimize my lifestyle make me anxious if anything. It kinda suggests if I don&#x27;t start my fitness diary, self-improvement plan and life goal milestone list right now, I&#x27;m wasting my time.
mvpuabout 8 years ago
Bah. Another listicle... although, #5 (social skills) and #6 (great people) are good enough for me. If you surround yourself with great people, your motivation to do great work is high. If you develop good social skills, you&#x27;re more effective working in teams. Great people + great collaboration = great career in the long run.
cypher303about 8 years ago
Honestly, if psychology studies were presented as opinion pieces I would take them much more seriously.
sAbakumoffabout 8 years ago
The article does not answer the ultimate question : Why should one ever care to be successful in a job?
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lorenzosnapabout 8 years ago
Good article. I am unsure about point 7 &quot;Consider changing where you live&quot; I accept that for some careers this might be inevitable but in a truly connected world it&#x27;s also nice to follow the opposite advise and spot opportunities where you are
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logfromblammoabout 8 years ago
6. Build your social network.<p>7. Abandon your current social network and move to a city where you can make better friends.<p>Both of those things may help generate career success individually, but probably not both of them together, <i>in that order</i>.
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graycatabout 8 years ago
For the objective of the OP, my single most important piece of advice is: And may I have the envelope please? And the nominees are, work harder, improve your knowledge and skills relevant to the job, get noticed by the C-level people, come in early and leave late, and play politics. And the winner is [drum roll, please] by a wide margin<p><pre><code> Play politics. </code></pre> For more, usually assume that your direct supervisor does not want you to do more or better because that might get you promoted over him. Instead, he wants you to do not very well. Then he can have an excuse to fire you. Then he can argue that he has to pay your better replacement more, and then, since the supervisor gets paid at least 15% more than his highest paid subordinate, the supervisor gets paid more. And he is sure to hire someone, really, less good than the one he fired. Really, what the supervisor wants as subordinates is a lot of people who can&#x27;t challenge him and, from their large number and relatively high salaries, get him paid more.<p>For more, there may be some cliques; join them and appear to be loyal to them.<p>A lot of the advice in the OP will scare your supervisor and cause him to try to get rid of you.<p>Net, play politics.<p>For one step more, the <i>politics</i> you are playing is well known in the literature of public administration, organizational behavior, and sociology and is called <i>goal subordination</i> where the workers <i>subordinate</i> the goals of the organization to their own goals.<p>Goal subordination is common in middle management in an organization big enough to have several levels of management. There commonly a middle manager wants to arrange that his position is relatively well paid and stable. To this end he wants to build an empire of subordinates who will not challenge him. The middle manager gets paid more because of his relatively large number of subordinates.<p>In a lot of medium to large organizations, an employee who is a <i>star</i> gets attacked. E.g., an employee A who sells more makes the other employees look bad, and they can retaliate by sabotaging employee A.<p>E.g., in a research university, never tell the others how your research is going. Instead, say nothing until the corresponding papers are PUBLISHED -- then it is too late for the others to sabotage the research, e.g., cause you to waste time by constantly dropping by your office to talk, putting you on silly committees, assigning you new courses to teach where you have to do new preparations, etc.<p>Net, instead of working to make the organization more successful, it is super common to replace reality with easier to do&#x2F;defend processes and to fight with others in the company, especially just down the hall.
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kelukelugamesabout 8 years ago
I don&#x27;t think the Charisma Myth is worth reading, but the first 3 tips she gives are great.<p>1) Don&#x27;t end your sentences on a rising inflection. Makes you sound unsure. 2) Don&#x27;t nod you heard more than once during a sentence when someone else is speaking. Makes you look to eager. 3) Take a breath before you speak. Doing so makes you come across as confident, prepared, thoughtful, and composed.
raleighmabout 8 years ago
I dislike the popular phrase &quot;evidence-based&quot; to describe practices&#x2F;advice. All reasoning should be evidence-based. Experience can be a source of evidence. The results of double-blind studies require interpretation, about which reasonable people will disagree. Many &quot;evidence-based&quot; findings could correctly be viewed as &quot;one person&#x27;s opinion&quot;.
taurathabout 8 years ago
You know what blows in the US? If you are unemployed, its damn expensive to get treatment for any mental health issues. If you can even get medicare, you can get covered for basically a community counselor - the time that most people could most benefit from the help of a psychologist or licensed therapist is the time they can least afford it.
landmark3about 8 years ago
my rule number one to be successful in a job is not to be obsessed about it
sqeakyabout 8 years ago
&gt; To avoid colds and flus it’s important to vacuum yourself daily. We recommend Dyson.<p>That dog looks so happy. If only human happiness were so easy.
suneilpabout 8 years ago
I like this article, yet, there is this obsession with evidence that I can&#x27;t quite pinpoint and it bugs me.
shmerlabout 8 years ago
<i>&gt; Go to Silicon Valley for technology, LA for entertainment, New York for advertising &#x2F; fashion &#x2F; finance, Boston or Cambridge (UK) for science, London for finance, and so on.</i><p>That kind of remains a cliché, but it&#x27;s less relevant today.
jtrafficabout 8 years ago
This article is ostensibly about &quot;how to be successful in a job&quot;. One of the pieces of advice is &quot;Figure out how to perform better in your job.&quot; Nice.<p>I have some advice about how to succeed in life: &quot;Figure out how to perform better in your life.&quot;
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jonathankorenabout 8 years ago
&quot;To avoid colds and flus it’s important to vacuum yourself daily. We recommend Dyson.&quot;<p>This is a joke right?
profalseidolabout 8 years ago
I believe understanding how the world really works is a must.
SteveParker60about 8 years ago
Stopped reading after seven seconds - giant animated pop-up.<p>Dear websites: please please stop doing this.
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atemerevabout 8 years ago
Right. Take care of yourself, deal with your mental issues, start every morning with cheap motivational yadda-yadda, improve your social skills -- and you can live long and stay healthy, while generating more profit for your employers and being less of a nuisance to your insurance company.<p>What a time to be alive!
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deftabout 8 years ago
Upvotes on an anti-capitalist comment on HN?!? Why I never....<p>To all the &#x27;gracious employers&#x27;: we are sick of working for pennies while you peddle psychobabble to get us to work harder. The problem is our exploitation. The end.
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yuwotm8about 8 years ago
Piece of crap article. There&#x27;s a difference between &quot;thinking positively&quot; and fantasising about how good your future life is going to be.
thinbeigeabout 8 years ago
Well written post and a smart idea to generate affiliate revs. With that amount of Amazon links you in that article you should have a click-through of more than 70% and a conversion on Amazon around 10%.
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