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Canary Mail – Smart Email Client for Mac and iOS with PGP Support

49 pointsby lorenz_liabout 8 years ago

16 comments

throwaway2016aabout 8 years ago
This looks like a decent mail client and making PGP more accessible I think is an admirable goal but I wish designers would stop patting themselves on the back...<p>&quot;Simple. Secure. Stunning.&quot; is right up there with all these &quot;show hn&quot; that start with &quot;beautiful&quot;.<p>Let social proof speak for itself. Show a quote from a major publication calling you stunning. Don&#x27;t call yourself stunning. I bet you it is more effective that way.<p>Edit: the thought occurred to me just now, imagine if in online dating profiles someone started their profile with a self-proclaimed &quot;Handsome and sexy&quot;... would you go out with that person? Then again, I haven&#x27;t been d ating in 10 years, maybe it&#x27;s changed.
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lobster_johnsonabout 8 years ago
I keep trying these (Canary, Polymail, Spark, Airmail), and they all disappoint in some way, and I always end up going back to trusty old Apple Mail.<p>One big point for me: Except for Airmail, none of the new &quot;minimalist&quot; mail apps do plaintext. They all force you to send as HTML. I would love for &quot;rich&quot; email to work, but it&#x27;s not nice the way current clients do it. In particular, I think it&#x27;s incredibly presumptuous for the sender to specify which <i>font</i> the recipient should read the text in.<p>My favourite mail client ever was Sparrow, until Google killed it.
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ryanmarshabout 8 years ago
That moment when I have to go to Product Hunt to see screenshots of your app because apparently they aren&#x27;t important enough to put on your landing page. Why do so many app landing pages leave out screenshots?
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abstrctabout 8 years ago
I want this to be awesome... but I&#x27;m also terrified of applications that tell me they are secure with no proof. Can you provide some additional information to quell my fears?<p>Perhaps information on a third party auditor?
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sdwiselyabout 8 years ago
When the first tab on your website is &quot;Privacy&quot;, don&#x27;t make &quot;Read notifications&quot; the default.<p>From the http request you&#x27;re taking all kinds of metadata to your server. I don&#x27;t want to add my PGP key in here to check, but I assume this is default for PGP messages too?
xoaabout 8 years ago
I regret to say it but I loathe their website. That sort of ultra-sparse modernist UI, where text and links are visually indistinguishable, informational text is spartan, and images are minimal and compressed is not helpful. Having to download and test a program or go read reviews to get a basic sense of UI is off putting. For software where UI is in fact a major part of the value offering, that&#x27;s particularly concerning.<p>Having said that, sometimes this can be overcome by virtue of a killer app, and Canary Mail may have one in the form of PGP for iOS. For whatever reason despite iOS&#x27;s strong overall security narrative and use by people concerned about security, and despite native S&#x2F;MIME being available since IIRC iOS 5.0, there has been a curious lack of PGP availability in any alternate iOS mail client. I say curious because email clients are one of those areas where it is very hard to get people away from the overall functional native one, so uncovered features that a niche user base will find extremely compelling matter more then in other kinds of software. Lack of PGP with iOS has network effects in that these days email that can only be read via a PC OS and is unreadable on mobile is pretty hard to accept. If Canary has no utterly breaking flaws then PGP support would make me at least take a hard look, including buying a copy purely for evaluation purposes whether I ultimately use it or not.
midnightmonsterabout 8 years ago
Interested in the read tracking and in a nice email client that will help me get through my backlog. Installed and configured my main mail account.<p>Advanced account settings was prefilled with almost-right information, which legit helps, but the labels only appear when the fields are empty, so I had to delete the prefilled info to see which ones needed to be changed.<p>Waiting on the animation between messages got old halfway through the first time, so I looked around in preferences for a way to shorten or turn it off. No luck, but in toggling the option to display or not display the message pane, I ended up with a window that consisted of disconnected segments of the top of each of the three panes. Quit was necessary to restore.<p>Did a quick search to collect a bunch of github messages from one project and delete them. Seven threads from my inbox and one from my archive were included. Not what I meant, no obvious way to change, but oh well I can live with deleting that one too. Right pane showed eight threads, gave bulk option to delete. Deleted, but then the right pane remained, the search now showed more entries, seemingly including both the now-gone inbox entries plus all the messages I&#x27;d just trashed in the trash.<p>Processing a few more messages, I ended up with the message pane showing only a ~20 px sliver of each message. Scroll bar still behaved as though the whole message was visible. Quit was again required to fix.<p>I&#x27;m on the mailing list, so hopefully I&#x27;ll hear about future bug fix releases, but the app&#x27;s too buggy in five min of use to even think about making it a daily thing as is.
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mikhailtabout 8 years ago
At this point, I&#x27;m just happy there is a new email client that isn&#x27;t storing anything on the third party servers. Good for Canary and I&#x27;ll give it a try.
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rocket_womanabout 8 years ago
My kingdom for an email client that works well with gmail, works offline, is fast, supports editing in an external editor and lets me quickly skim email.
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sneakabout 8 years ago
Exciting. Where&#x27;s the source?
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tuananhabout 8 years ago
Airmail is quite ok but still far from Sparrow usability and performance.<p>Airmail hangs several seconds on startup doing god-knows-what.
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axxlabout 8 years ago
How does read-tracking work (a feature I don&#x27;t even want) with a client-only email solution like this?
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arrty88about 8 years ago
Does it work offline, like when I&#x27;m on the subway or a plane?
c_r_wabout 8 years ago
The website looks like an ARG for the next Halo game.
albertini_89about 8 years ago
and like always , everything is for iOS , like other OS doesnt exists... great
goatofhehillsabout 8 years ago
Subjective, but I found the landing page design off putting when viewed on my iPhone