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Sam Altman Considering Run for CA Governor

112 pointsby rkaplanabout 8 years ago

17 comments

tareqakabout 8 years ago
I linked the Recode article that also links to the SF chronicle column.<p>SF Chronicle article: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sfchronicle.com&#x2F;bayarea&#x2F;williesworld&#x2F;article&#x2F;The-man-President-Trump-fears-most-11144034.php" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sfchronicle.com&#x2F;bayarea&#x2F;williesworld&#x2F;article&#x2F;The-...</a><p>Recode article that links the to the SF Chronicle article: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.recode.net&#x2F;2017&#x2F;5&#x2F;14&#x2F;15638046&#x2F;willie-brown-column-sam-altman-might-run-governor-california-2018" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.recode.net&#x2F;2017&#x2F;5&#x2F;14&#x2F;15638046&#x2F;willie-brown-colum...</a> with the title &#x27;Sam Altman for governor?&#x27;<p>My submission (now flagged): <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=14337211" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=14337211</a><p>I originally found the Recode article from <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;techmeme.com&#x2F;river" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;techmeme.com&#x2F;river</a> . Here is a screenshot as of 5:20 PM EDT: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;a&#x2F;xJFcS" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;a&#x2F;xJFcS</a><p>In hindsight, I should have used Techmeme&#x27;s description as the title of my submission, but I did not think of that at all at the time. I feel as though that users should be able to post the original title and a possibly editorialized version in cases where the original title is suspect, but the article itself has some newsworthy merit.
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icpmacdoabout 8 years ago
I am indifferent to this except for the possible negative effects it might have on HN.<p>I hope it does not cause any significant changes to the community here, either from signs of censoring criticism or the topic consistently derailing threads. Every single online community I am apart of is getting wrapped up more and more into American politics it seems.
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cjbarberabout 8 years ago
I&#x27;m very excited about this.<p>Skills that would be useful as governor:<p>* Learning new things quickly<p>* Running and improving existing organizations<p>* Hiring great people and building teams<p>* Identifying the most important and undervalued things to work on or invest in<p>Sam:<p>* Learning new things - e.g. with nuclear power, see comments by nuclear power founder <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.ycombinator.com&#x2F;jacob-dewitte-oklo-interview&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.ycombinator.com&#x2F;jacob-dewitte-oklo-interview&#x2F;</a><p>* Running and improving existing organizations - see YC since 2014<p>* Hiring great people and building teams - YC since 2014, <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.samaltman.com&#x2F;how-to-hire" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.samaltman.com&#x2F;how-to-hire</a>, YC Research organizations like OpenAI<p>* Identifying the most important and undervalued things to work on or invest in - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Sam_Altman#Angel_Investing" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Sam_Altman#Angel_Investing</a><p>I&#x27;d certainly like these attributes in my governor!
gotothedoctorabout 8 years ago
Wow. I’m so confused by this. Sure, it makes sense that Altman would seek advice from Willie L. Brown Jr.—but why would Altman allow Brown to announce this in his newspaper column? And, even more bizarre-- why would Brown suggest that Altman’s candidacy is so threatening that it’d make Gavin Newsom suicidal? Seriously?<p>Sam Altman is obviously an impressive, wealthy &amp; ambitious guy. However, he is 32 &amp; has literally zero experience in CA state government &amp; politics. Sure, Altman has raised money for Hillary, but, no one knows better than Willie how far a distance it is from a Hillary fundraiser at his home to a pancake breakfast at a labor union in Sacramento. Brown even acknowledges that it’s been an unsuccessful pattern for wealthy tech guys. Why would anyone who knows anything about California politics (let alone Willie Brown) recommend that a virtually unknown wealthy 32 year old with no relevant experience run for governor of any state, let alone California? Has Brown signed on to be a paid advisor for Altman’s campaign?<p>Gavin Newsom, on the other hand, is also wealthy &amp; young(ish) but has decades of experience. As Brown well knows, Newsom could face actual competition from Kamala Harris, Antonio Villaraigosa or even Tom Steyer--none of whom are political novices.<p>That said, its fantastic that Altman has political aspirations. And I hope many people do encourage him to pursue public service. But why wouldn&#x27;t Altman start out by running for State Assembly or Congress?<p>I hope Altman asks himself why Willie Brown didn&#x27;t say exactly this to him--&amp; that actually, thankfully, in his experience, California is beyond unlikely to elect a 32 year old with no experience as its governor.<p>Frankly, deciding to run for governor as a wealthy 32 year old with no experience in government or politics, suggests that Altman, at least presently, lacks the judgment being governor of CA requires. Its concerning that Altman himself would not know as much --let alone think that in the age of Trump, that such a campaign could be successful in CA--and even more so that he&#x27;d surround himself with folks that wouldn&#x27;t tell him as much.<p>To be clear, my criticism is not cynicism or hate. I am critical because I admire Altman (&amp; separately, differently, Brown) &amp; think he can do better. But, it&#x27;ll take surrounding himself with folks who challenge him, not those who benefit from agreeing with him. Maybe this&#x27;ll help him learn as much?
jacobolusabout 8 years ago
I doubt he’d have much chance of winning, but if he did it would be unlikely to work well for state residents. You want someone with decades of experience in state politics to be governor. Jerry Brown (on the second go-around) has been by far a better governor than at least the previous 6 were, including his younger self.<p>(Admittedly Pete Wilson and Gray Davis were both career politicians with plenty of CA experience, and both terrible – we might say that decades of experience is a necessary but not sufficient condition for being a great governor.)<p>If Altman is serious, he should try running for state legislature first.
oisinoabout 8 years ago
Curious how Sam would overcome his lack of relative charisma vs people in politics to win. Paul graham essay on this is more than ever true in the world of social media <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.paulgraham.com&#x2F;pow.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.paulgraham.com&#x2F;pow.html</a>
loteckabout 8 years ago
If the act of running as an outsider for high office is mostly an exercise in building name recognition to bolster future races, this may be an OK idea.<p>If this is a play to get younger people to pay attention to government, also an OK idea.<p>Seems like an OK idea.
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d--babout 8 years ago
I thought that in terms of numbers, a majority of people in CA disliked the startup guys... am I wrong?
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EternalDataabout 8 years ago
There&#x27;s an interesting inflection point when it comes to age and politics nowadays. Ossoff is 30 and is now the best hope the Dems have at picking up a seat in suburban Hillary country. Macron, at 39, is the youngest French leader ever elected (emphasis on elected) and the youngest head of state.<p>Granted, both had deep experience in politics before cutting their skin in the game and staking themselves out in a major way. But I no longer see age and perceived experience as a major obstacle to policy-making and electability -- especially in an age where most people are yearning for a different kind of politics.
bdroolabout 8 years ago
Reminder that this is the same person who attempted to publicly shame[1] Jeremy Guillory out of fighting for his fair share during GM&#x27;s acquisition of Cruise. This attempt failed, and Cruise ended up having to publicly acknowledge the opposite:<p>&quot;As part of the settlement, Cruise and its founder Kyle Vogt now acknowledge that Guillory was a cofounder of the company.&quot;[2]<p>On top of that, Sam&#x27;s post originally included the statement &quot;it’s important to the way Silicon Valley works that such behavior not be tolerated&quot; in reference to Guillory fighting for his recognition, which he later removed.[3]<p>This is not someone I would support for any sort of public office.<p>EDIT: He&#x27;s not above criticism, folks. If you disagree with me, how about replying and explaining instead of down-voting?<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=11490188" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=11490188</a><p>[2] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businessinsider.com&#x2F;car-startup-cruise-settles-legal-case-involving-cofounder-2016-5?op=1" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businessinsider.com&#x2F;car-startup-cruise-settles-le...</a><p>[3] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=11491011" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=11491011</a>
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redahsabout 8 years ago
&gt; tech investor and app innovator who believes that if used right, technology can bring an end to income inequality and a hosts of other social and economic problems.<p>If this implies using technology to deliver greater public services more efficiently, it is unlikely to solve structural inequality.<p>If you deliver public services more effectively and make California a more attractive place to live, then land values will rise, and landowners and mortgage investors can charge even higher rent.<p>The primary driver of inequality is housing costs and the only combination which would allow for high public spending on services and low rent paid to landholders and banks is switching state revenue from income, sales, and personal property taxes to a land value tax.<p>You can incentivize an incremental switch to land value taxation by sponsoring legislation which would allow residents to obtain an exemption from all state taxes if they lived in a county which made quarterly payments to the state on their behalf.<p>If a county can figure out how to get around Proposition 13 and raise local revenues from quarterly assessed unimproved land values sufficient to pay for both local and state services, it should be allowed to forward a portion of the money to the state in exchange for exemptions from state taxes for residents.<p>From a technical standpoint, it would be great if there was a public map of a single land value tax rate for every parcel of land in the state. However private developers could build this using data published by the county governments.
rdlabout 8 years ago
I&#x27;d be sad to lose him from YC, although he would probably do enough good for the state overall to make up for it.<p>If he were at all effective, I&#x27;d consider ending my California boycott. I&#x27;m concerned that unless the rest of state government is fixed, including Prop 13 and the voter initiative system in general, California is just too fucked to be fixed even by a great Governor, though.
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Animatsabout 8 years ago
Willie Brown is still a kingmaker? He&#x27;s 83 and hasn&#x27;t held office since 2004.
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prawnabout 8 years ago
So, do we sell or buy Alt-coin on the back of this news?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;sama&#x2F;status&#x2F;861825929034833920" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;sama&#x2F;status&#x2F;861825929034833920</a>
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poweraabout 8 years ago
I&#x27;d rather see Paul Graham run for governor, and SamA stay at YCombinator.
jacques_chesterabout 8 years ago
I was under the impression, based on the original submission, that this was based on running as an independent. About which I&#x27;m skeptical.<p>There&#x27;s a reason that rich folk who get elected are nominated by a major party.<p>It&#x27;s because in a voluntary voting system, a large &quot;Get Out The Vote&quot; machine is necessary, even though it&#x27;s not sufficient.<p>You don&#x27;t get that machine with machine learning. You get it with thousands of organised volunteers managed by experienced party hacks.<p>Afterwards, having seen where the money goes, I suspect Sam will decide to invest in political consultancies.<p>(Copied here and modified since this submission has replaced the other submission)
dangabout 8 years ago
Url changed from <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mobile.twitter.com&#x2F;kimmaicutler&#x2F;status&#x2F;863674430890717185" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mobile.twitter.com&#x2F;kimmaicutler&#x2F;status&#x2F;8636744308907...</a>, which points to this.