TE
TechEcho
Home24h TopNewestBestAskShowJobs
GitHubTwitter
Home

TechEcho

A tech news platform built with Next.js, providing global tech news and discussions.

GitHubTwitter

Home

HomeNewestBestAskShowJobs

Resources

HackerNews APIOriginal HackerNewsNext.js

© 2025 TechEcho. All rights reserved.

History of Emacs and vi Keys (2010)

130 pointsby McMiniabout 8 years ago

8 comments

lispmabout 8 years ago
Neither Emacs nor the control&#x2F;meta keys were invented on Lisp Machines. Emacs was written in TECO on DEC&#x27;s PDP machines.<p>The control&#x2F;meta keys actually date back to Professor Wirth at Stanford. The Stanford keyboard had control&#x2F;meta then. MIT then had it in the form of the Knight keyboard.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.lysator.liu.se&#x2F;hackdict&#x2F;split&#x2F;bucky_bits.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.lysator.liu.se&#x2F;hackdict&#x2F;split&#x2F;bucky_bits.html</a>
评论 #14372023 未加载
评论 #14371709 未加载
submetaabout 8 years ago
Interesting to see the Symbolics keyboard. As an Emacs user I had reprogrammed my ThinkPad keyboard (Windows) so that<p>Alt -&gt; Control<p>Windows-key and Menu Key -&gt; Alt<p>Control keys -&gt; Windows key<p>So without having ever seen a Symbolics keyboard and without knowing the history behind emacs keyboard layout I remapped my keyboard so that I had very quick access to Control and Alt (= Meta) keys.<p>On my Macbook it&#x27;s not that easy. I could remap the Command key to become a Control key, but many Mac shortcuts heavily rely on the Command key. So that&#x27;s no option.
评论 #14372032 未加载
评论 #14371474 未加载
评论 #14369503 未加载
评论 #14372078 未加载
评论 #14369558 未加载
rosetteralmost 8 years ago
Emacs user? Get a Japanese keyboard.<p>That&#x27;s my number one piece of advice after two decades of Emacsing and one on a Japanese keyboard.<p>Japanese keyboards have a much shorter space bar with extra keys on either side. Remap these to control, hit them with your thumbs, and experience bliss.<p>I used to get &#x27;Emacs pinky&#x27; quite frequently, but never since the switch. If you think about it, it makes all kinds of sense:<p>- your thumbs are strong and dextrous but totally underused in a traditional layout - most space bars are ridiculously large.. wasted real estate - your non-spacebar thumb can comfortably rest on a ctrl key so there&#x27;s often no lateral movement at all<p>Fascinating to see others thinking along the same lines as me with keyboard remapping, and also to discover that all this time we&#x27;ve been trying to get closer to the keyboards of antiquity!
pvgabout 8 years ago
Previous thread<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=6056420" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=6056420</a>
soperjabout 8 years ago
Any idea why the period became repeat in VIM? I&#x27;ve checked through old manuals, and can&#x27;t quite figure out where it came from.
评论 #14372004 未加载
thomastjefferyabout 8 years ago
Vi is a poor implementation of a great idea.<p>I would really like a modal editor in which I could configure the behavior for each key, maybe even define more modes and composable functions.
评论 #14372886 未加载
评论 #14372885 未加载
评论 #14373566 未加载
评论 #14377322 未加载
tetraodonpufferabout 8 years ago
what is the difference between &quot;backspace&quot; and &quot;rubout&quot;? the emacs keyboard had both it seems, but wouldn&#x27;t they be doing the same operation?
评论 #14371986 未加载
评论 #14370106 未加载
评论 #14371699 未加载
njharmanabout 8 years ago
I never understood appeal of wasd. Maybe my fingers are shorter. It&#x27;s way easier for me to have all three on same line so I change S to fwd and X to back.