Some commenters on Twitter are still saying 0.5 points is "very close".<p>It would be if both players were human: in human play, score differences tend to correlate with differences in actual skill, and probability of outcome (who wins the game).<p>Not so with Alpha go. That machine just takes the surest path to victory, with no regards to its magnitude. It doesn't care about winning by only half a point. It cares about <i>securing</i> at least half a point.<p>It may have been a crushing victory for all we know.
This game's start is already fantastic.<p>Ke Jie already played an adaptative tactic the bot, that is playing in a very solid and stylish game. It almost feels like a teaching game so far.<p>As a former student of Lee Sedol and once aspiring professional Go player, i'd answer a few questions if you have any!
A photo of White: <a href="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_-DoMQ0CuAQ/VzzPgbjhjOI/AAAAAAAACp4/5v6prECMLigEfJ23VigpjPWXoH-lT05UgCLcB/s1600/tpu-1.png" rel="nofollow">https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_-DoMQ0CuAQ/VzzPgbjhjOI/AAAAAAAAC...</a><p>It is a rack of tensor processing units. <a href="https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2016/05/Google-supercharges-machine-learning-tasks-with-custom-chip.html" rel="nofollow">https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2016/05/Google-supercha...</a>
Ke Jie lost 14-7 by FineArt recently (Tencent's Go bot) [1], but 13-0 in the last games (an update to the bot?) so it would really interesting to see the two bots playing each other. I watched this game [2] of FineArt against Japan's Ichiri Ryo yesterday (1-0) and it seems that FineArt has a different way of playing than AlphaGo, more fighting, but that's only one game.<p>[1] <a href="https://lifein19x19.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=14125" rel="nofollow">https://lifein19x19.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=14125</a><p>[2] <a href="http://www.go4go.net/go/games/byplayer/1819" rel="nofollow">http://www.go4go.net/go/games/byplayer/1819</a>
In the other thread some people mentioned that Je Kie has already lost twice, 14-7 and 13-0, to another Go bot called FineArt (by Tencent)? odd that didn't get any exposure while everyone is watching this game so attentively. Assuming this information accurate, FineArt has already proven bots are above humans, that's moot. At this point if AlphaGo loses it only makes FineArt more impressive! The real match would be Tencent vs Deepmind.
I hope the next focus for Deepmind will be on opening up the black box and trying to put some explainability aspects in place, as has been done before for other deep learning architectures (or at least, people are starting to play around with). So many questions of the form "I wish we could ask AlphaGo what is was thinking here" -- so this would be great to have.
For those that find the Google livestream jittery, I found the direct YouTube link[1] much smoother.<p>[1] <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-HL5nppBnM" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-HL5nppBnM</a>
Does anyone know whether they isolate generations of AlphaGo and then recombine them after a while? Simulating something like, having Go being played in geographically distinct countries for years and then having the (perhaps many) traditions clash?
i love the commentary. for somebody who knows the rules but is not a frequent player it's just the right amount of detail i need. same guy who did the alphago commentary too, i believe.
I have a feeling that Lee Sedol's single win will be remembered as the first and the last instance of a human victory versus a strong AI in game of go.
Some key differences between this match and the Lee Sedol one are:<p>1) Ke Jie has an estimation of Alpha Go's skill. Lee Sedol did not know how strong Alpha Go was. Lee Sedol was very skeptical that a bot could have reached such high level.<p>2) Ke Jie has been able to study a game where Alpha Go was beaten.<p>3) Ke Jie has been able to play Alpha Go before, with faster game settings.
Match is live here: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-HL5nppBnM" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-HL5nppBnM</a>
For those joining the stream now, can anyone indicate the current state of the match? Is AlphaGo already dominating? I keep waiting for the commentators to give their opinion but they haven't so far.
i would love to see a match between alpha go vs a group of humans. I think it's a better match since as computer can use multi cores so humans can use multi-minds.
I wish they would not keep panning the camera away from the explanation though. Google hired some pretty piss poor horrible camera operators. It really really sucks.
From the start Ke Jie had chosen the path of narrow but certain defeat, without himself knowing. Alphago knew it all the time and therefore let Ke Jie to take the course of euthanasia. The end result is a close defeat but it was a total defeat all the way.