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Florida GOP consultant admits he worked with Guccifer 2.0, analyzing hacked data

53 pointsby tcoppialmost 8 years ago

7 comments

baldeaglealmost 8 years ago
Seems like this was closer to &#x27;Lyft obtains a leaked copy of the Uber go to market strategy for FL, TX, etc&#x27; than &#x27;Waymo obtains notice that Uber bought secrets&#x27;. As such, there was nothing moral&#x2F;truth-y to be learned from it, but a lot of tactical knowledge. I&#x27;m all for transparency, but this is more akin to corporate espionage than whistle blowing.<p>I think this is trying to show second order effects of the hack, in that it changed ground level tactics in addition to influencing hearts and minds. What ever you believe about the source of the hack, this event damages the idea of a noble hacker seeking to expose wrong doing.
pdkl95almost 8 years ago
The Russia&#x2F;&quot;hacked election&quot; meme is amazing. With very little actual <i>evidence</i>, careful use of linguistic framing, and a lot of angry rhetoric on all sides, the public was successfully scared into wasting their time and energy fighting among themselves over hearsay and rumor, instead of addressing <i>any</i> of the numerous actual, known problems that are already known and far more likely to impact the average citizen.<p>If there&#x27;s actual <i>evidence</i> of an actual <i>crime</i>, then present it to the public and the court. In the meantime, healthcare is still a huge mess, regulatory capture is keeps getting worse (an isn&#x27;t limited to the FCC), systemic corruption continues to erode the public sector as politicians - regardless of party affiliation - spend increasing amounts of time &quot;dialing for dollars&quot;[1], wealth inequality continues to get worse, and the military-industrial complex is still a money pump that starts the occasional war.<p>There is a lot of important work to do, but this <i>denial of service attack</i> against everyone&#x27;s political time and energy has been a very successful distraction.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Ylomy1Aw9Hk" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Ylomy1Aw9Hk</a>
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lumaalmost 8 years ago
So the GOP is directly admitting to collusion with Russian agents in order to disrupt US elections. Are we OK with this as a country?
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zentiggralmost 8 years ago
Ok, for a report with the possible meaning and impact as this, to have zero dates, no timeframe at all, is either very cagey or very &quot;rush this online!&quot;. I&#x27;ll assume oversight before incompetence. However, given the piece as written, these communications could have happened years ago or yesterday (hyperbole I know but ???)
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creaghpatralmost 8 years ago
Related: A federal prosecutor in Florida turned up dead on a beach this morning.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;abcnews.go.com&#x2F;US&#x2F;mystery-ensues-federal-prosuctor-found-dead-florida&#x2F;story?id=47652909" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;abcnews.go.com&#x2F;US&#x2F;mystery-ensues-federal-prosuctor-fo...</a>
ItendToDisagreealmost 8 years ago
1) Russia is not a &quot;European&quot; country. Though it does exert influence in that sphere and has a &#x27;European Russia&#x27;. Anecdotally most Russians I&#x27;ve met would bristle at Russia being called a &quot;European&quot; territory.<p>2) If Manafort, Flynn, Sessions, etc had non-shady dealings with Russia you would think they wouldn&#x27;t have to be so shady about how they present those dealings. Sessions wouldn&#x27;t have to explicitly commit perjury in front of the Senate to try and hide his interactions with Russian officials if they were normal interactions.<p>3) If you&#x27;re taking large amounts of money (say for real estate deals) from Russian state banks and oligarchs you&#x27;re playing a dangerous game of being in someone&#x27;s pocket.
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gragasalmost 8 years ago
Why does this have a negative twist? Is it not a good thing that voters were more informed of the darker sides of the DNC and the Democratic party before voting?
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