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Are China and the United States Headed for War?

11 pointsby DLayalmost 8 years ago

9 comments

burntrelish1273almost 8 years ago
War exists now in many more dimensions than in previous centuries including non-conventional weapons and cyber, in addition to public sentiment, economic, social, political and military.<p>Considering the CIA&#x27;s loss of double-agents, I&#x27;d say China maybe winning the HUMINT arms race at the moment.<p>There&#x27;s too much to lose with direct military engagement (nuclear MAD), so competition will be limited to proxy wars, &quot;sharp-elbow&quot; island capture and overflights, trade wars and cyber attacks. The question becomes at what point does hard proof of attacks in these other domains necessitate an escalation of limited hostilities in the conventional dimensions (ie military).
Osiris30almost 8 years ago
See previous HN discussion on China and the &#x27;Thucydides trap&#x27; (2015) [1]<p>And also - &quot;There is no Thucydides trap&#x27; - an essay&#x2F;review of Graham Allison&#x27;s book by Chinese history scholar Arthur Waldron - &quot;In this book review, he argues persuasively against a concept that has become a pillar of establishment thinking on China.&quot; [2]<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10309448" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10309448</a><p>[2] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;supchina.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;06&#x2F;12&#x2F;no-thucydides-trap&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;supchina.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;06&#x2F;12&#x2F;no-thucydides-trap&#x2F;</a>
chiefalchemistalmost 8 years ago
It&#x27;s a concern, but hardly in the Top 5 of Problems Facing Humankind.<p>War is inevitable. It&#x27;s tragic that still sounds like a reasonable statement thus far into the 21st Century.
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voidzalmost 8 years ago
No.
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Simulacraalmost 8 years ago
No. China recognizes it has far too much to lose in a war with the United States, and America realizes it too. There will always be saber rattling, and tension, because each wants to dominate a sphere of influence. But war? No. Proxy wars? Absolutely but all out, country to country combat? No.
insulanianalmost 8 years ago
No way. Who would produce the stuff for west then? Western world will be in big trouble if that happens.
cryoshonalmost 8 years ago
china is growing into its mantle as world hegemon to replace the crumbling US.<p>there might be war, or there might not be. china isn&#x27;t about to start shit when they could be making money hand over fist with anyone and everyone. they&#x27;re not about to be bullied, either.
smailialmost 8 years ago
In all honesty with all of the things the US is entangled with in the Middle East and Europe, I cannot imagine yet <i>another</i> conflict. It just feels like we would be stretched much too thin with our resources and at some point would collapse.
youeeeeeediotalmost 8 years ago
Some people are much more enlightened in this day and age but history has taught us that war is inevitable. We are a violent species, and eventually chance prevails and enough mistakes are made to trigger something unstoppable.
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