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Ask HN: How do you talk about what you're working on without being a douche?

22 pointsby good_vibesalmost 8 years ago

9 comments

Klunyalmost 8 years ago
Try to find an angle that the listener might find interesting, rather than trying to puff it up to make it sound as cool as possible.<p>For instance: I was working with the development team for Time.com to fix a major security vulnerability. It basically took 3 days of staying up all night debugging and going back and forth with their team, and we finally found it - some dumbass included a javascript library that has a well known bug hidden in a minified mess.<p>Why is this bad? Namedropping (time.com), puffing it up to sound bigger than it is (debugging something for three days is perfectly normal, if you&#x27;re staying up all night then it&#x27;s down to your own poor time management), name calling and blaming others (the dumbass), jargon (javascript library, minified), assuming knowledge that there&#x27;s no reason for them to have (well-known).<p>Instead: I got to work with one of our really big clients to figure out a security vulnerability that was really stumping everyone. We spent a couple of days debugging it, so that&#x27;s probably why I&#x27;ve had my head in a cloud lately because I&#x27;ve just been thinking about it non-stop. In the end, we found a bug hidden in a really big block of third party code that&#x27;s written in a way that makes it very tough for humans to read it, but luckily it&#x27;s a known bug that some other company had documented, and someone found a blog post about it that let us connect up the dots. All six of us working on it were really relieved when we figured it out!<p>Why better - gives credit to others, explains why it was difficult, doesn&#x27;t use any technical language, leaves openings for more questions (why is the code hard for humans to read? who was the big client?), doesn&#x27;t try to exaggerate the severity of it.
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zxcmxalmost 8 years ago
Talking about what you&#x27;re working on and being a douche are entirely orthogonal.<p>I feel like you have this whole interaction framework in mind (a certain social context). If you were to explain that you might get more useful answers.<p>On the other hand perhaps enough people can guess the situation you&#x27;re in such that you get useful answers.
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smt88almost 8 years ago
I never find it douchey when someone talks about what they&#x27;re working on -- unless they&#x27;re trying to sell it to me.
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who_is_firingalmost 8 years ago
Avoid saying the words &quot;changing the world&quot; or any other bullshit buzzword that deceptively gives your work a nobler, tone than it deserves. Trust me, if you are changing the world, people will figure it out from what you are doing; you don&#x27;t need to mention that specifically.
bxcalmost 8 years ago
Be happy disengaging from the game with non-competitive responses like &quot;yeah probably no one will use it, but mostly I just want to have fun&quot; or &quot;Yeah it sounds like a waste, but I get my paycheck&quot;.
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sshagentalmost 8 years ago
Unless they are vaguely techy, i generally just say &quot;with computers&quot;, or perhaps &quot;safeguarding data for disaster recovery, for a company in Movies&#x2F;Advertising&quot;
SwellJoealmost 8 years ago
I ask what they&#x27;re working on first, and then listen.
bsvalleyalmost 8 years ago
Pitch it like a startup would pitch a 2-slide deck to an investor. Then wait for the questions. Let them run the talk.
thibaut_barrerealmost 8 years ago
I simply describe what I&#x27;m doing factually.