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Wood pulp extract stronger than carbon fiber or Kevlar (2012)

146 pointsby jtrafficalmost 8 years ago

9 comments

slackingoff2017almost 8 years ago
Im not too surprised. The strength of plywood is well known in aero and racing circles. For parts like stringers plywood is used instead of fiberglass when higher stiffness is required.<p>Plywood is similar strength&#x2F;weight as fiberglass which isn&#x27;t too far off from carbon fiber.<p>The issue with all popular composite materials like fiberglass, carbon fiber, and plywood is that their strength is highly directional. It takes a lot of skill and testing to make sure your part is strong enough in all directions force will be applied.<p>There&#x27;s some omnidirectional &quot;mat&quot; type materials you can get easily for fiberglass but you exchange the directional strength of weave for a non-directional but overall inferior strength of randomly oriented strands.
pacaroalmost 8 years ago
Strip planking is popular amongst canoe builders. A 1&#x2F;4inch thick core of cedar has fiberglass on either side. The glass provides tensile strength and the wood provides both compression strength and a useful offset between the fiber layers.<p>I can lift the bare hull of an 18 foot long sailing canoe with one hand.<p>The downside is in maintenance&#x2F;repairs, and the critical requirement to keep through holes absolutely watertight. If water gets into the core it&#x27;s a total PITA<p>Also, strips of cedar that are 3&#x2F;4&quot; by 1&#x2F;4&quot; by 18&#x27; are really weird to handle.
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omarforgotpwdalmost 8 years ago
Stronger at 10% of the price of carbon fiber. So why haven&#x27;t we seen more people using this material in the last five years?
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mixedbitalmost 8 years ago
Also take a look how strong and abuse-resistant cross laminated timber is: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;alexschreyer.net&#x2F;engineering&#x2F;much-abuse-can-cross-laminated-timber-clt-take&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;alexschreyer.net&#x2F;engineering&#x2F;much-abuse-can-cross-la...</a>
eutecticalmost 8 years ago
Carbon fiber works so well in composites because it is possible to create long, continuous fibers which can be woven into cloth for directional reinforcement.<p>Maybe it is possible to use the strengths of each by adding CNCs to carbon composites.
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dsfyu404edalmost 8 years ago
Hmmmm. I wonder how its material properties change in the -40 to +300F range and if the chemicals involved can tolerate immersion in oils.<p>With the weigh&#x2F;strength characteristics and requirement that it not see water I can see this material being used in indoor (or sealed inside a gearbox somewhere) applications to reduce rotating mass.
JonRBalmost 8 years ago
I&#x27;m delighted by how in-depth and detailed this is!<p>I&#x27;d be interested in seeing the numbers for how much the final product <i>weighs</i> in comparison to Kevlar&#x2F;Carbon Fibre...<p>I&#x27;d also love to know if this research went anywhere since 2012
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imaginenorealmost 8 years ago
I think it since got surpassed by UHMWPE, which has a tensile strength of ~20GPa. They make cheap body armor out of it.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Ultra-high-molecular-weight_polyethylene" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Ultra-high-molecular-weight_po...</a>
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AdmiralAsshatalmost 8 years ago
No wonder it&#x27;s so popular as a binding agent for fake cheese.