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MDN’s new design is in Beta

106 pointsby omnifischeralmost 8 years ago

18 comments

vladdanilovalmost 8 years ago
It may be new but it is not a well-thought design.<p>110+ characters per line is hard to read and ugly [1].<p>Pure black on white has been discussed many times. While it satisfies min contrast requirements, it feels unnatural, and again, hard to read, causing eye strain [2][3]. Although this is not an issue on screens with automatic brightness adjustment, they are sadly not everywhere and it is wiser to target an average screen considering Mozilla auditory.<p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;practicaltypography.com&#x2F;line-length.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;practicaltypography.com&#x2F;line-length.html</a> [2] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;ianstormtaylor.com&#x2F;design-tip-never-use-black&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;ianstormtaylor.com&#x2F;design-tip-never-use-black&#x2F;</a> [3] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ux.stackexchange.com&#x2F;questions&#x2F;23965&#x2F;is-there-a-problem-with-using-black-text-on-white-backgrounds" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ux.stackexchange.com&#x2F;questions&#x2F;23965&#x2F;is-there-a-prob...</a>
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Aardwolfalmost 8 years ago
Happy to see the new design looks similar to the old design, not an experimental new UI that removes half the information or puts everything behind things you need to expand or similar!<p>I always favor MDN over w3schools results when searching for a javascript, HTML, DOM or CSS property :)
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majewskyalmost 8 years ago
I like how they&#x27;re using the logo font for the headlines. As someone who already knows the new logo, this helps me connect MDN to the Mozilla brand more intuitively.<p>However, I&#x27;m just as concerned about the huge font sizes and high font weight as the majority here. It really distracts from the actual content.
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mintplantalmost 8 years ago
There&#x27;s an official thread for feedback over on the Mozilla Discourse: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;discourse.mozilla-community.org&#x2F;t&#x2F;beta-redesign-feedback&#x2F;16544&#x2F;21" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;discourse.mozilla-community.org&#x2F;t&#x2F;beta-redesign-feed...</a><p>I&#x27;ve posted the link to this thread over there along with a couple main points from the comments here so far, but if you really want to make sure your input is heard, you might want to hop on over there to give it. You can log in with a GitHub or Google account if you don&#x27;t feel like signing up with your email.
greggmanalmost 8 years ago
That giant font works for Array.prototype.slice but what about CanvasRenderingContext2D.prototype.createRadialGradient or WebGL2RenderingContext.prototype.getActiveUniformBlockParameter?
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bluedinoalmost 8 years ago
&gt;&gt; For MDN that means bold typography that highlights the structure of the page, more contrast, and a reduction to the essentials.<p>And less actual content, forcing you to scroll or zoom out.
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tonyhbalmost 8 years ago
The bold headline steals attention away from the copy; it makes it much harder to focus on the actual content.<p>IMO they could try making the bold header a lighter shade to stop stealing focus. I much prefer the older one for readability.
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randomfoolalmost 8 years ago
Unrelated to the design, it irks me to no end that MDN&#x27;s top search result for &#x27;Array&#x27; is <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developer.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;docs&#x2F;Glossary&#x2F;array" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developer.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;docs&#x2F;Glossary&#x2F;array</a> when the second result is so much better.<p>At least the ES6 Map has finally usurped the antiquated &lt;map&gt; as the top &#x27;Map&#x27; result :)
pbreitalmost 8 years ago
I like the &quot; reduction to the essentials&quot;. Not sure about the &quot;high contrast&quot;.
Animatsalmost 8 years ago
That&#x27;s not the problem with MDN. MDN&#x27;s big problem has been a confusion of out-of-date versions of documentation. It doesn&#x27;t help that they&#x27;ve tried hard to get developers to use Mozilla technologies, from Jetpack to Firefox OS, which were then abandoned.<p>Firefox&#x27;s drop to 15% market share has a big effect on developers. I&#x27;ve watched my add-on usage drop in lockstep with Firefox&#x27;s market decline.
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jypepinalmost 8 years ago
Those bold fonts and titles with black background are not working for me :\ Hopefully i&#x27;ll get used to them.
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microcolonelalmost 8 years ago
I wish they would stop and reverse Mozilla Open Design. In my opinion it has made all of their design worse and uglier and probably cost them money.<p>MDN looked and felt great to browse before, now the headline is absurdly misproportioned and in the wrong place (not in the text column).
emilfihlmanalmost 8 years ago
A bad update, actually decreases value because of having to scroll about constantly.
hajilealmost 8 years ago
That logo in the upper left needs some padding love. It looks like someone just found out about CSS background-color. A few pixels of padding would go a long way.
johanschalmost 8 years ago
There is such a thing as a too big font. I think it happens when you feel like you physically have to move back from the screen to comfortably read the text.
MikusRalmost 8 years ago
While this new design looks good for documentation, it&#x27;s also used on Firefox homepage where it makes it look like one of those domain squatter sites.
cosinetaualmost 8 years ago
Thank you Mozilla!
kuschkualmost 8 years ago
&gt; - Too much contrast? Reduce screen brightness. (This has the beneficial side effect of increasing battery life on mobile devices.)<p>So, I have to make the rest of my UI unreadable, just because you prefer to use a cheap chinese 20$ screen which can’t even handle sRGB?
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