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Why there’s no such thing as a gifted child

12 pointsby janshoalmost 8 years ago

11 comments

slackingoff2017almost 8 years ago
This has to be paid placement for the book, shame on you Guardian.<p>Also it&#x27;s laughable. Intelligence is basically something you&#x27;re born with. Around half is inherited, the rest is, IMO, luck, but still determined very young or in the womb.<p>Giftedness is measurable young, possibly at the beginning of speech (gifted children almost always talk earlier than average). This raises doubt that it&#x27;s something developed by training.<p>Some studies also, controversially, show that final IQ can&#x27;t be easily manipulated by learning. That IQ is fixed at a young age and remains static through a wide variety of future up brining.
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belornalmost 8 years ago
The article uses three terms: &quot;gifted&quot;, &quot;intelligence&quot;, and &quot;high performance&quot;, but it seem to be as doing a rather poor job at distinguishing them in the beginning. The article seems to acknowledge that intelligence is a spectrum where people are born with everything from intellectual disability to intellectual giftedness, but then focus primarily on performance. A gifted child, as define by the article, is a high performing child.<p>Seems similar to people who would look at a tall child and proclaim that they will be high performing baseball player, and then get disappointed when they don&#x27;t end up in major league. I find it rather obvious that most of the tallest children in the world won&#x27;t end up as professional baseball players, similar to how most of the highest intellectual gifted children won&#x27;t end up with a Nobel prize. Instead I predict that children on any extreme end of a spectrum will face a long list of unique challenges in a society which is designed for the median, resulting in a wide range of performance results.
woodpanelalmost 8 years ago
Just recently did a hackathon for teenagers. The differences in abilities were krass.<p>And not just programming knowledge but also mental agility, self assurance, independence, problem solving and social as well as soft skills.<p>Some couldn&#x27;t even speak up. Others seemed like born problem solvers - 16 yr olds you could directly employ. Some were a fountain of creativity. One kid had an ego so big, that made him unpopular with us grown ups but I have to admit, he&#x27;ll have a great future at any start up. Probably his own.<p>Kids aren&#x27;t born equal - but the role of psychology and possible neurochemical makeup is IMO under-appreciated in how we educate people.
jwilkalmost 8 years ago
&gt; [Einstein] failed the general part of the entry test to Zurich Polytechnic<p>Yeah, let&#x27;s leave unsaid the fact that he was 16 at that time.
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randyrandalmost 8 years ago
It&#x27;s amazing how far people will bullshit for their equality narrative.
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stephengilliealmost 8 years ago
The theoretical &quot;IQ&quot; represents just a maximum of an individual&#x27;s potential intelligence. We don&#x27;t always operate at that level, as many factors - such as hunger, lack of sleep, and frustration - may subtly and temporarily reduce the quality of our cognitive output.
hu3almost 8 years ago
What about this kid (supposedly 8 years old) teaching Haskell and uni level math? Sadly, non-english video:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=eLLm8JaLqq8" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=eLLm8JaLqq8</a>
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libeclipsealmost 8 years ago
&gt; Even Einstein was unexceptional in his youth.<p>Citation needed.
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carsongrossalmost 8 years ago
IQ is 50-80% heritable.<p>There is such a thing as a gifted child.
kleborpalmost 8 years ago
&quot;So, is there even such a thing as a gifted child? It is a highly contested area.&quot;<p>This seems to be at odds with your title, The Guardian.
mindcrashalmost 8 years ago
This article is bullshit, and I can tell from experience because I learned to read all by myself when I was about three years old.<p>My IQ is also at least good enough to get through the official Mensa pre-test (which you need to take to know if you should even consider taking the official one).