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Apple Pulls 60 VPNs from China App Store

127 pointsby callumlockealmost 8 years ago

18 comments

merricksbalmost 8 years ago
Extensively discussed 2 days ago:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=14880659" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=14880659</a>
halfelfalmost 8 years ago
Very sad. Though I have an alternative apple account outside CN, prepared for this long time ago, it still brings me some inconvenience. These days you can&#x27;t trust any mega corp, they will eventually store our (Chinese citizen&#x27;s) data in CN.<p>Another explanation is the upcoming 19th National Congress of CCP. Recently many policies have been published to restrict freedom of speech, indicating the leader now might desire another 5 year presidency.
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Severianalmost 8 years ago
So does the Great Firewall do deep packet inspection? I take it that it does, and blocks any protocols that it detects that allow tunneling&#x2F;traversing the firewall.<p>What if there was a method of changing the standard data formats to be randomized based on one time authorization codes? So your SSH&#x2F;SSL&#x2F;L2TP&#x2F;etc was mangled around to something corresponding to a one time auth function. Basically pre-encrypting or obfuscating to avoid the deep packet inspection.
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pestrovalmost 8 years ago
Seems like something similar would happen in Russia this Fall too. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reuters.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;us-russia-internet-idUSKBN1AF0QI?il=0" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reuters.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;us-russia-internet-idUSKBN1A...</a>
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AlexGizisalmost 8 years ago
Speedify got pulled Saturday morning: &quot;your application will be removed from the China App Store because it includes content that is illegal in China, which is not in compliance with the App Store Review Guidelines: 5. Legal&quot;
emsyalmost 8 years ago
It sucks that you can&#x27;t simply sideload apps like with Android (it is possible but has many restrictions). That&#x27;s my main gripe with iOS. Without Apple&#x27;s servers your device is virtually useless. Apple pulling those apps would be a non-issue.
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4adalmost 8 years ago
What exactly is a &quot;VPN app&quot; for iOS? How does it work? I was under the impression that iOS natively supports VPNs through IPsec (and perhaps a few other technologies), and that it doesn&#x27;t have tap&#x2F;tun devices, nor it allows installing kernel drivers to create tap&#x2F;tun devices so you could not use e.g. OpenVPN.<p>So what do these VPN apps actually do? Are they just a front-end for some service, but the phone still uses IPsec? If that is the case I assume you can configure IPsec manually?<p>Can someone explain? A link to some technical document would be amazing.<p>Thank you!
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sumanthvepaalmost 8 years ago
Just out of curiosity, how do businesses in China that have remote offices secure their communication? It must be hard without VPNs.
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unstatusthequoalmost 8 years ago
It&#x27;s fine, the Chinese piracy apps will continue to support freedom of information. &lt;&#x2F;snark&gt;<p>The irony of that is alarming.
brady747almost 8 years ago
Now, if china makes them pull shadowsocks(R) clients from the apple&#x2F;app&#x2F;itunes store...then we&#x27;ll know they are serious. Sorry for all the vpners in china on apple, at least you can go get a cheap android device in china and monkey around and patch together a mobile vpn based solution of some sort.
duncan_baynealmost 8 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=R706isyDrqI" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=R706isyDrqI</a><p>Perhaps someone should show Tim Cook.
vincnetasalmost 8 years ago
ssh -D 12345 infidel@secret-server.com
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epynonymousalmost 8 years ago
i can still download vpn clients from the us apple store from china, it&#x27;s not a big deal, thus far, though annoying.
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new2424141almost 8 years ago
does stunnel over openvpn bypass the GFW ?
wuxbalmost 8 years ago
OKay. Make China North Korea. #MCNK
onewhonknocksalmost 8 years ago
What is their alternative?
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junkculturealmost 8 years ago
China : &quot;Jump!&quot; Apple : &quot;How high?&quot;
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_pmf_almost 8 years ago
&quot;Where we&#x27;re going, you&#x27;ll need no VPN!&quot; (spoiler: it&#x27;s an internment camp)