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Psychologists say more and more young people are entitled

28 pointsby dvanwagalmost 8 years ago

11 comments

Clubberalmost 8 years ago
&gt;Pschology Today reports that some examples of entitlement range from the disregard of rules, freeloading, causing inconveniences and like to assume the role of leader when working in groups.<p>Disregard of rules, depending on the rule, is fine, particularly when said rules are dumb. You need to be able to know which rules are breakable and which are not. For me, this goes along with the phrase, &quot;Better to ask forgiveness than permission.&quot; Example: production issue that is bleeding $5 million a day, but the rule says you can only release on the 3rd Thursday of every month and it&#x27;s the first Monday. That&#x27;s obviously a short sighted and very dumb rule. You have justification though so you can probably break it safely. Might want to talk to your superior though.<p>&gt;freeloading<p>Depends on what this means. If you are reciprocal, then it&#x27;s called sharing. If you actually are a freeloader, stop; you won&#x27;t have any friends for long.<p>&gt;causing inconveniences<p>Ya don&#x27;t be that guy driving 10 miles under in the fast lane.<p>&gt;like to assume the role of leader when working in groups.<p>You should totally do this, especially if no one else is willing. If you pin your fate on a nitwit, you will regret it.<p>Having said all that, news loves talking shit about the newest generation. They did it with mine, until my generation started being the news people. Take it with a grain of salt. Soon your generation will be making fun of the next generation, so tell them the same thing.
basseqalmost 8 years ago
If I understand correctly, this research shows that young people are more entitled than older people. It does <i>not</i> show that young people <i>now</i> are more entitled than young people in previous decades: that a 50-year-old was as entitled when he or she was 25.<p>This gives me a great excuse to trot out my favorite collection of headlines and quotes:<p>Young people: the “latter-day cult of individualism; the worship of the brazen calf of the Self.” (1907)<p>Young people: those for whom “the phrase to make a living could have absolutely no meaning”. (1968)<p>The “Me Decade”. (Baby boomers in the ’70s)<p>The Now Generation? Slackers? (Generation X)<p>The Not-Me Generation? (1980)<p>The Video Generation of “preening narcissists who have to document every banal moment with their cutting-edge communications technology”. (1985)<p>The “entitlement” of Millennials is the same entitlement that plagued their fathers and grandfathers. It&#x27;s young people in the workforce. Some are idiots, some are limited by idiot managers. Everyone wants more responsibility, and no one wants to wait and get there.
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praptakalmost 8 years ago
I cannot imagine a meaningful discussion starting with the word &quot;entitled&quot;. To me it&#x27;s &quot;I really dislike the fact that you want something, so I have this bad label that I&#x27;ll apply to you&quot;.
nxsynonymalmost 8 years ago
Can anyone link the actual study? Tried following the links but got blocked by a log-in wall to see the actual study.<p>Was there a control for the study? What were the questions asked? And how can they draw any conclusions from a group of 170 students (which I am assuming is their study group, unless the paper says otherwise).<p>It could also be that young people are being asked to do more with less compensations and hardly any positive re-assurance about future stability (jobs, income, housing).
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blacksmith_tbalmost 8 years ago
Awkward phrasing in the OP - they may &quot;feel entitled&quot;, but clearly the implication is they aren&#x27;t _actually_ entitled, hence their narcissistic disappointment. Or to put it another way, &#x27;more and more young people aren&#x27;t entitled, but feel they are&#x27;.
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bcoatesalmost 8 years ago
Back in my day I got nonsense stories about kids these days from local TV news fluff pieces not this internet clickbait nonsense!
watwutalmost 8 years ago
&gt; like to assume the role of leader when working in groups<p>People who assume the role of leader when working in groups may be annoying (and definitely are to me), but they also have better careers and earn more money. If you don&#x27;t assume such role nor defend turf and other colleges do, you will end up micromanaged and blamed for everything.<p>The above are reasons in nutshell why parents and educators shape kids to assume the leadership qualities. Because those of us who were raised not to assume them, earn less money and less promotions.<p>The other thing is that people who demanded better things often got better things and those of us who did not demanded better things, well, did not. Like for example, during salary negotiation. Every single time there is discussion about whether or why women get lower salaries, someone - oftentimes someone older - argue by women demanding less or being less aggressive in negotiation. Why would a parent who has this experience with this trained the kid to loose later on? Then they complain about entitlement when young people (of both genders) listen to the logic behind the argument and are demanding.<p>By the above I want to say that while it may be overdone in many cases, a lot of it is attempt to adjust to how world works. Overly humble people with low confidence don&#x27;t build successful companies, don&#x27;t win and get blamed for their own misfortunes.
justboxingalmost 8 years ago
Related video with some insights into this behavior =&gt; Simon Sinek on Millennials in the Workplace : <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=YrT8lJNa9Z8" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=YrT8lJNa9Z8</a><p>Causes mentioned are 1) Parenting, 2) technology, 3) impatience and 4) environment.<p>#1 most definitely checks out in the US. I have a 17 year old niece (born in 2000) who exhibits the toxic narcissistic and entitlement mentioned about young people in the OP and in the youtube video.<p>His room is filled with trophies and medals (over 30) and at first glance I thought he was really a future tennis prodigy. Turns out not a single 1 of those trophies and medals were 1st prize, or even 2nd prize. Almost all were &quot;Participation&quot; Trophies. The way he showed them off, one would think they were all 1st prizes.<p>Growing up in India, we never had anything like this. I was 1st in class for several years at 1 of the top catholic convent schools. The 1st and 2nd in class got books and a certificate as prizes, the rest got nothing. This made it special, so everyone would compete and try to come 1st or 2nd in class.<p>So I really don&#x27;t get these &quot;Participation&quot; trophies. By trying to tell the kids - every kid pretty much - they are special, when 99% of them aren&#x27;t, aren&#x27;t the parents and school teachers partly to blame for cultivating this &quot;toxic narcissistic&quot; and &quot;entitlement&quot; that they then carry with them for the rest of their lives, into adulthood and into the workplace?
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groby_balmost 8 years ago
Wait, we&#x27;re sharing an article that quotes &quot;Psychology Today&quot;? Can we get Breitbart&#x27;s take, too? What does InfoWars think?<p>So, let&#x27;s take a look at the abstract of the actual study: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;pubmed&#x2F;27504935" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;pubmed&#x2F;27504935</a><p>And, as it turns out, not a word on young people there. The entire study is on a conceptual model of entitlement, and how it leads to disappointment. Maybe the actual study (paywalled) actually does break things down by age, but it certainly doesn&#x27;t seem to be a major focus.
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maxxxxxalmost 8 years ago
They respond to the environment the previous generation created for them and now people are surprised?
mcappletonalmost 8 years ago
It&#x27;s &quot;cool&quot; to hate on millennials now for being lazy and such. A hilarious song about it:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=hLpE1Pa8vvI" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=hLpE1Pa8vvI</a>
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