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Why Elephants Don’t Explode: How Nature Solves Bigness

99 pointsby aaossaalmost 8 years ago

14 comments

Terr_almost 8 years ago
This reminds me of an old (1928) piece titled &quot;On Being The Right Size&quot; by JBS Haldane [0], which lightly touches on many different concerns related to sizing:<p>&gt; Of course tall land animals have other difficulties. They have to pump their blood to greater heights than a man, and, therefore, require a larger blood pressure and tougher blood-vessels. A great many men die from burst arteries, greater for an elephant or a giraffe.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;irl.cs.ucla.edu&#x2F;papers&#x2F;right-size.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;irl.cs.ucla.edu&#x2F;papers&#x2F;right-size.html</a>
Bartweissalmost 8 years ago
I&#x27;m confused by the slider task. The explanation simply says that voles eat much more than elephants <i>per unit of body mass</i>, but the sliders suggest that voles literally eat more food per day than elephants.<p>Are the grass pictures supposed to be interpreted relative to the size of the animals next to them?
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LeifCarrotsonalmost 8 years ago
&gt; 402<p>&gt; Plot twist!<p>&gt; Payment required...<p>&gt; This embedded plot has reached the maximum allowable views given the owner&#x27;s current subscription.<p>&gt; Please visit the subscriptions page to learn more about upgrading.<p>Don&#x27;t see many 402s!<p>Also, D3 is awesome. Don&#x27;t pay to show a graph, either draw it in any visualization tool and take a screenshot for the article, or use locally hosted D3.
seanalltogetheralmost 8 years ago
Here&#x27;s another fun read on why sizes matter as it relates to monster movies<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;fathom.lib.uchicago.edu&#x2F;2&#x2F;21701757&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;fathom.lib.uchicago.edu&#x2F;2&#x2F;21701757&#x2F;</a>
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devyalmost 8 years ago
I visited San Diego Zoo a few months ago. In SDZ&#x27;s Safari park, they host one of the biggest elephant park in North America. I remember the tour guide mentioned Elephants are so huge that if you lay down for more than 4 hours, there are pretty high chance they won&#x27;t stand up and eventually leading to death due to the size of their body.
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eridiusalmost 8 years ago
This article is interesting, but all it talks about is why big animals have a lower metabolic rate than small ones. I wish it would have also addressed the question of why small animals have a higher metabolic rate than big ones. If elephants can get away with having such a low metabolic rate, why can&#x27;t voles?
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ak217almost 8 years ago
I thought this would be about allometric scaling of organs. But if we&#x27;re on the topic of metabolism, I wonder what the rate of cancer is for shrews vs. elephants, once the metabolism and lifespan are somehow accounted for.
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gueloalmost 8 years ago
That was hard to read. Would have been much easier if they just got to the point.
jger15almost 8 years ago
Geoffrey West&#x27;s book Scale gets into this -- good read.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Scale-Universal-Innovation-Sustainability-Organisms&#x2F;dp&#x2F;1594205582&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Scale-Universal-Innovation-Sustainabi...</a>
ameliusalmost 8 years ago
Also, at the cell level, large animals should have a better self-protecting mechanism against cancer, because more cells means a higher probability of cell-divisions going awry.
transparentlabsalmost 8 years ago
The difference in metabolic rates between large and small animals is directly linked to why large animals typically have longer lifespans the smaller ones.
eridiusalmost 8 years ago
Since the embedded plot isn&#x27;t showing up, you can see it at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;plot.ly&#x2F;~aatish&#x2F;115&#x2F;an-ounce-of-a-smaller-creature-gulps-more-air-than-an-ounce-of-a-bigger-creature&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;plot.ly&#x2F;~aatish&#x2F;115&#x2F;an-ounce-of-a-smaller-creature-g...</a>
theohalmost 8 years ago
Knut Schmidt-Nielsen wrote a couple of books on this topic. Googling Bonner and Schmidt-Nielsen together seems to bring up some surveys of the literature.
Florin_Andreialmost 8 years ago
Volume vs area, basically.