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Susan Wojcicki, CEO of YouTube Responds to Google Memo

31 pointsby whatsmyhandlealmost 8 years ago

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orfalmost 8 years ago
He wasn&#x27;t arguing that women have smaller brains or are somehow biologically inferior to men, thus are not in leadership&#x2F;tech positions. As I read it he was making the point that current positions select for personality traits more common in men. And that you can&#x27;t talk about this without getting fired.<p>He makes the (valid?) point that perhaps you should fix the core issue of the innate job selection bias rather than trying to implement your own selection bias while recruiting.<p>I thought it was an OK read and made some sense, and couldn&#x27;t understand the big fuss. Did anyone else feel this way, or am I misunderstanding it? Please correct me if so, it&#x27;s open to interpretation but I think the tagline &quot;due to biological differences in women&quot; is a bit disingenuous.<p>I also thought firing him was a bit extreme and kind of proved some of his points.
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cropsiebossalmost 8 years ago
Why is everyone appealing to emotions and producing red herrings?<p>No one refers to any points other than those which they interpret to be oppressive and offensive (mostly points having to do with female&#x2F;male differences which are real and exist). The hypothesis put out are there to further the discussion, not to be taken as facts (there are words like &quot;may&quot;, &quot;in part&quot; all over the place yet we interpret &quot;may&quot; as &quot;is&quot;, and &quot;in part&quot; as &quot;mostly&quot;).<p>What about Google&#x27;s unscientific, hidden, irrational methods of fixing bias?<p>Unconscious bias training is unscientific yet they practice it. It does not work, or at worst it is harmful. Facebook does it too.<p>These methods come from one of the hardest fields of science - psychology. We know how much the studies aren&#x27;t reproducible, repeatable, some results even depend on time (more known the methods the less they work).<p>Why is no one looking at those points?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=SEDuVF7kiPU" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=SEDuVF7kiPU</a><p>Watched the interview above and cannot believe how media and almost every individual responding put this individual in some kind of aggressive, oppressive, racist frame.<p>Given the peer-reviewed sources in the video description of the interview no one sane enough could believe that the guy was being malevolent.<p>The real guilt goes to the leaker, the dramatizer and the reactionist.<p>I&#x27;m officially stopping with the tracking of this topic. It frustrates me that so many brilliant individuals become ideologues and witch hunters incapable of continuing the discussion. It saddens me that &quot;discussion&quot; has turned into calling this an &quot;anti-diversity&quot; memo and silencing.
Oddstrideralmost 8 years ago
Appealing to emotion throughout and not tackling any of the questions that the memo raised, I am left feeling disappointed.
aianusalmost 8 years ago
So she taught her daughter to stop asking questions and just take an authority figure&#x27;s word at face value?<p>Wonderful, that&#x27;s definitely going to encourage her to pursue a career in STEM &#x2F;s
krasickialmost 8 years ago
If this is her takeaway,she should be fired.