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California Court Orders Vinod Khosla to Reopen Disputed Beach

110 pointsby workerIbealmost 8 years ago

11 comments

pasbesoinalmost 8 years ago
Given all the years and precedent of access (throughout the State of California), I would hope that any stay of the order pending further litigation would be denied.<p>And that, if he then continues to refuse, he be jailed for contempt of court.<p>In my own little childhood hometown, I&#x27;ve watched public beach access (to a lake) become more and more locked up behind fees and limited hours of access and upscaling property values and home ownership that wants to keep things quiet and for themselves.<p>The quiet part, I appreciate. The &quot;keep out&quot; part, not so much.<p>The childhood memories I have of times spent there, are simply no longer possible. It&#x27;s all on lockdown. Something lost in that -- something significant, in my opinion.
Animatsalmost 8 years ago
The Zonker Harris Beach Accessway in Malibu is &quot;closed for repairs&quot; again.[1] Closed for over a year now.<p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;beaches.lacounty.gov&#x2F;zonker-harris-accessway-closed-for-repair&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;beaches.lacounty.gov&#x2F;zonker-harris-accessway-closed-f...</a>
rhizomealmost 8 years ago
Just so we don&#x27;t go over the same thing again, Khosla&#x27;s unique claim is that the title to the land derives from a land grant from before California was a state, with which he justifies disregarding the CCC.<p><i>A year after the case was filed, however, a San Mateo County Superior Court judge dealt Friends of Martin’s Beach a setback, ruling there was no right of access. He said the property was subject to the 1848 Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, an agreement that ended the Mexican-American War and required the United States to recognize Mexican land grants.</i><p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.latimes.com&#x2F;local&#x2F;lanow&#x2F;la-me-ln-martins-beach-snap-20161026-story.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.latimes.com&#x2F;local&#x2F;lanow&#x2F;la-me-ln-martins-beach-sn...</a>
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mwnivekalmost 8 years ago
Previous discussions:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=14984639" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=14984639</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=14984770" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=14984770</a>
robohamburgeralmost 8 years ago
I am surprised more states do not have laws like Hawaii&#x27;s where you are required to provide beach access. Shame for such a nice beach to go to waste.
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spodekalmost 8 years ago
&gt; One year later, his management companies closed the gate and put up a no-access sign. A billboard that had advertised beach access was painted over.<p>What a jerk.
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desireco42almost 8 years ago
Did anyone tried to organize a protest, show up en-masse on &#x27;his&#x27; beach etc?<p>From what I understand, you could use a boat, show up at the beach, party and leave with boat and you are within legal use.
s73ver_almost 8 years ago
So, how do we make sure that he never tries to pull this stunt again? The level of fines the law allows doesn&#x27;t seem to be doing anything.
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simonebrunozzialmost 8 years ago
Without reading the article, I know this is Vinod Khosla. The title should reflect that: put his name there, and save us a click to know who he is.
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khazhouxalmost 8 years ago
I can see his point of view, though: as a rich man, he <i>should</i> be able to do what he wants, and lay claim to this beautiful stretch of the Pacific Ocean.
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fizixeralmost 8 years ago
Why is a beach up for sale if it&#x27;s not up for private gating?<p>(Why doesn&#x27;t California declare its coastline public property that is not-for-sale?)<p>edit: Just found out the answer. Beaches themselves are never for sale, even though properties right up to the edge of the beach are. Next question: Are all river banks public property too? Can you not build a manufacturing plant at a river bank? What about lakes? Are lakes public property?
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