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Medium rolls out a payment model for writers based on engagement

95 pointsby dayvealmost 8 years ago

22 comments

tyingqalmost 8 years ago
How do claps == engagement?<p>I read quite a lot of articles that are well written, but that I don&#x27;t agree with. So, I&#x27;m engaged, but I likely won&#x27;t &quot;clap&quot;.<p>Wouldn&#x27;t this drive writers to just pander to the majority opinion?
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abhisuri97almost 8 years ago
While the idea of showing extent of engagement is great, I can&#x27;t help but notice that articles which would only have 10-12 recommends have 200-300 claps mostly bc those claps come from friends of the author trying to promote the story. It makes it incredibly difficult as a reader to objectively ascertain what is actually more recommended by people. Additionally, as a reader, I have no idea what amount of claps is appropriate (eg is 10 claps excessive for a good article or is it not enough?). The recommend model was excellent, don&#x27;t fix it if it aint broke.
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uuocalmost 8 years ago
Attention Medium writers: If you want claps, then you must insist that Medium drop the dickbars (see: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;daringfireball.net&#x2F;2017&#x2F;06&#x2F;medium_dickbars" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;daringfireball.net&#x2F;2017&#x2F;06&#x2F;medium_dickbars</a>).<p>Medium with dickbars? = No claps.
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zoulalmost 8 years ago
BTW: <i>A branding statement from Medium shared with Poynter says the new wordmark and branding system &quot;reflects the unique and dynamic nature of the ideas you can find on Medium without compromising the voices and stories shared.&quot;</i><p>It always amazes me that people can come up with this stuff with a straight face.
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perlgeekalmost 8 years ago
Tracking reading would probably be a better measure than something that a reader has to do consciously.<p>With the extra action required, you reward agreeable content, not necessarily interesting content.
exidyalmost 8 years ago
Seems like a recipe for clapbait.
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raleigh_useralmost 8 years ago
Its about time for facebook to buy medium and roll it into some sort of longer form content portion of their offering.<p>LinkedIn&#x2F;Microsoft acquiring them would also be interesting since writing on LI is absolutely horrible.<p>Seems medium is lost product wise. It is getting progressively worse and the new &quot;clap&quot; feature is hilariously bad.
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mgiannopoulosalmost 8 years ago
&quot;Medium pays authors by dividing up every individual subscriber’s fee between the different articles they’ve read that month.&quot;<p>So if you read one article during a month , your entire fee would go to one source even if you are subscribed to many sources ? Not sure how to feel about this.
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Brajeshwaralmost 8 years ago
Perhaps a bit off topic but Medium seems to be experimenting and &quot;pushing&quot; writers to write more. I don&#x27;t write regularly and my articles don&#x27;t attract much traffic&#x2F;visitors. However, the followers are increasing exponentially for no apparent reason. I see no correlation with anything and I don&#x27;t know where to look.
minademianalmost 8 years ago
Feels like Medium is clutching at straws after failing with the Members-Only content model...
jphalmost 8 years ago
Medium has a core challenge ahead, and IMHO the opportunity is more akin to Patreon donations and less akin to Facebook likes.<p>I read many long blog posts especially about tech. I donate money to many authors and creators. I&#x27;ve learned the hard way that paywalls interfere with my ability to share links with more people, and undermine open source discussions. And voting systems tend to be gamed.<p>Medium&#x27;s price point is a risk. Flat monthly fees of $5 is too low for what I spend on quality writing, but also too high for many people in less-wealthy areas.<p>I advocate a tip jar. It&#x27;s the worst form of payment, except for all the oth­ers. I also advocate a sponsorship button to encourage future writing and projects.<p>I believe success looks a lot like what creators such as Amanda Palmer are doing with fundraising. If you&#x27;re interested, watch her TED talk or her Patreon page. I don&#x27;t know if her way would work for part-time writers, or ad-hoc bloggers. I do believe it&#x27;s a worthwhile experiment.
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koolbaalmost 8 years ago
&gt; Essentially, we look at the engagement of each individual member (claps being the primary signal) and allocate their monthly subscription fee based on that engagement.<p>Reminds me of the sad Jeb Bush quote from last year, &quot;<i>Please clap.</i>&quot;.<p>&gt; To make its new pay-by-engagement initiative work, Medium needs to get enough people to shell out the $5&#x2F;per month membership fee.<p>I don&#x27;t see this model ever working. I just don&#x27;t see content worth paying for. Most of the articles I read, be it on Medium or elsewhere, are by people who are passionate about a subject who want their content to be as widespread as possible. The content creators I see using this are not those people.<p>&gt; The paywall will now be metered, mirroring similar paywalls at The New York Times and The Washington Post, allowing non-members a limited amount of locked stories each month.<p>Surely I&#x27;m not the only one that regularly clears their browser cookies. I&#x27;ve never ran into this being an issue for any of those sites.
rewrewalmost 8 years ago
There&#x27;s no reason to have the &quot;claps&quot; -- they could easily measure engagement without the readers having to actively do anything (visits to page&#x2F;time on site, etc.). This reeks of a gimmick&#x2F;someone trying to do something for their MBA thesis, vs. actually trying to get authors fairly paid.
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epxalmost 8 years ago
Wouldn&#x27;t that invite for more extremist&#x2F;incendiary texts?
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allenleeinalmost 8 years ago
Expanding the Medium Partner Program<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=15074123" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=15074123</a><p>FYI
narimanjalmost 8 years ago
How about a payment model based on PageRank? This way Medium can measure the engagement from all over the web and not just Medium or Medium partners.
jessaustinalmost 8 years ago
The most interesting bit is the footer with links to discussions of the organizations leaving Medium... apparently this time donations will be the answer!
etermalmost 8 years ago
I&#x27;m not sure I want to give someone the clap!<p>(It is slang for gonorrhea, although perhaps a bit archaic now.)
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0xbearalmost 8 years ago
People pay for Medium? I fail to see what useful service it provides.
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amrrsalmost 8 years ago
There are not many social media platforms where users pay more undivided attention. Medium is one such platform where Long form articles get attention and they&#x27;ve got an active user base too. Paywall - Medium Member seems to be a decent monetization plan yet without Writers being shared the same income, Quality articles might not flow in. This seems to be a wise decision for a company to get some numbers on their balance sheet and gain some giant&#x27;s attention for potential acquisition!
mustafabisic1almost 8 years ago
Medium is definitely making some major moves and I love it. Especially the claps. They are so many quality posts there and I love giving people standing ovation they deserve.
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amingilanialmost 8 years ago
I love this idea! It&#x27;s like what a lot of cryptocurrency powered content sites work like <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;steemit.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;steemit.com&#x2F;</a> where you upvote with crypto.<p>But this brings it to the fiat world. And members get access to paid content. It&#x27;s awesome! I just wish Medium worked on their white-labelling a bit more, and added a few advanced editorial features and I&#x27;d switch our company blog over immediately.