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Nvm will **not** be adding support for Ayo.js

63 pointsby bretcover 7 years ago

8 comments

brad0over 7 years ago
&gt; I&#x27;m not going to add support for a fork lightly; I don&#x27;t think this will stick; and I don&#x27;t think a fork is an appropriate or well-timed response to what&#x27;s been happening. Either way, I wouldn&#x27;t add support for a fork that adds nothing but a partial documentation commit - that has value for nobody.<p>I appreciate this straightforward and honest response to this issue. The responder has looked at the benefits of the fork and decided that it doesn&#x27;t make sense to add it.
programmarchyover 7 years ago
Looking at the forked repo all they did was rename node to ayo and add a VALUES.md with very little substance. Looks like a power grab by a bunch of control freaks to me.<p>At least io.js had some technical merit and seemed to genuinely want to improve node (which arguably it did).
konsumerover 7 years ago
I haven&#x27;t gone very deep with this issue, but I worked with Rod briefly at Nodesource, and hope more node-ecosystem projects respond like this. In the short time we worked together, I was completely impressed with him technically and socially. I was really surprised when I heard that anyone had an issue with him. I specifically remember the COC (which I guess this is about) was mandatory for all projects, and it&#x27;s adherence was extremely important. I think he has very high standards of quality, but never personally saw any kind of hostile behavior (I&#x27;d say the opposite, as he was always really helpful.) He is an asset to any team, and I hope this blows over soon, so he can get back to doing what he&#x27;s good at.
coldteaover 7 years ago
Can we just let Ayo.js die in the obscurity it has an deserves and not encourage this sort of politics?
TheAceOfHeartsover 7 years ago
On the subject of version managers for multiple programming languages, people might be interested in checking out asdf [0]. nvm was my favorite tool for handling multiple node versions, but I&#x27;ve found asdf suits my needs a bit better.<p>I&#x27;d still reach for nvm for deploying to a server. To the best of my knowledge, the code is portable across all UNIX-y OSs.<p>On the other hand, asdf supports multiple languages, so I was able to kill off rvm too! It also has considerably better performance (specifically, startup speed).<p>EDIT: As to the discussion regarding Ayo.js... I&#x27;ve never interacted with Rod personally, but having read a few hundred of his miscellaneous responses on GitHub, he has never struck me as someone unreasonable. His response to the criticisms being raised seem very reasonable as well. If anything, I now feel like I have a bit more trust on node team.<p>Based on my highly limited outsider&#x27;s perspective, trying to kick him seems overly harsh. If people believe he&#x27;s doing things poorly, an avenue should be created through which constructive criticism and feedback can be provided. We&#x27;re all human, we make mistakes, and we sometimes don&#x27;t understand each facet of problems we encounter.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;asdf-vm&#x2F;asdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;asdf-vm&#x2F;asdf</a>
Raed667over 7 years ago
Can someone recap (or link to) the whole story behind the fork ?
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rendallover 7 years ago
Jordan has apparently walked that back.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;creationix&#x2F;nvm&#x2F;issues&#x2F;1595#issuecomment-325159240" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;creationix&#x2F;nvm&#x2F;issues&#x2F;1595#issuecomment-3...</a>
andybakover 7 years ago
Maybe now we&#x27;ve got goddam, real, actual Nazis to worry about people can stop expending effort in creating straw nazis out of thin air.<p>Bigger fish to fry, people...