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Ford disguised a man as a car seat to research self-driving

339 pointsby gopalakrishnansover 7 years ago

30 comments

michaelbuckbeeover 7 years ago
It sounds goofy, but this strikes me as really clever. Compared to almost anything else with self driving cars adding a few indicators to outwardly show what it&#x27;s going to do next (for pedestrians and other drivers) is a huge win.<p>There is a fair amount of waving for someone else to go first at a turn, seeing if a driver is distracted (on their phone) at a stop, making eye contact while using a cross walk etc that gets lost with SDVs.<p>Also, I really feel like they stole this idea from Raid 2 <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;ErrRhXItBWc?t=118" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;ErrRhXItBWc?t=118</a>
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mykeliuover 7 years ago
People in the comments are making references to prank videos and film techniques, but this type of research study has also been conducted multiples times in the last few years by institutions such as Stanford [1], UC San Diego [2], Virginia Tech [3], and more.<p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;wendyju.com&#x2F;publications&#x2F;RO-MAN2016-Rothenbucher.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;wendyju.com&#x2F;publications&#x2F;RO-MAN2016-Rothenbucher.pdf</a><p>[2] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sandiegouniontribune.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;science&#x2F;sd-me-ghostdriver-ucsd-20170403-story.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sandiegouniontribune.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;science&#x2F;sd-me-ghost...</a><p>[3] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.citylab.com&#x2F;transportation&#x2F;2017&#x2F;08&#x2F;heres-the-real-science-behind-that-fake-driverless-car&#x2F;536268&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.citylab.com&#x2F;transportation&#x2F;2017&#x2F;08&#x2F;heres-the-rea...</a>
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shangxiaoover 7 years ago
A reporter apparently tried to talk to one of the drivers and they refused to acknowledge his presence: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;AdamTuss&#x2F;status&#x2F;894627339891609602" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;AdamTuss&#x2F;status&#x2F;894627339891609602</a>
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josefrescoover 7 years ago
&quot;they just needed people to believe wholeheartedly they were using one.&quot;<p>Don&#x27;t they mean &quot;seeing one&quot; instead of &quot;using one&quot;? Or am I missing something?<p>&quot;fill in gaps where we currently communicate via subtle gestures, eye contact and other less obvious mechanisms.&quot;<p>This also struck me as odd - do pedestrians and other drivers really make &quot;eye contact&quot; with drivers to gauge their intention? I guess it&#x27;s possible, but in many cases you can&#x27;t see the driver&#x27;s head, let alone eyes.
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ATschover 7 years ago
It&#x27;s interesting, everybody is thinking about how this was used for pranks and films, but I immediately thought of the much more sinister attempts to flee east Germany. I was unable to find a photo, but I remember seeing a car that was modified so a person could be sewn into the seat in a Berlin Museum.
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otakucodeover 7 years ago
This is really quite common. I read an article about a car in Pittsburgh where a driver was similarly disguised in order to research specifically other peoples reactions to driverless vehicles on the road. In the article I read, I believe it occurred in Pittsburgh, PA and the researcher was affiliated with a university (maybe Carnegie Melon?). The reporter was able to speak with the costumed researcher just briefly, but got a more substantive statement from the org doing the research.
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dpflanover 7 years ago
Seems like they need to turn the cameras inward too (or has this been done already?); they can start observing &quot;good&quot; drivers providing signs to other drivers to then learn how to communicate a driving decision better.
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VMGover 7 years ago
Just as in Knight Rider! <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;knightriderhistorians.blogspot.com&#x2F;2013&#x2F;12&#x2F;the-fate-of-original-hero-car-revealed.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;knightriderhistorians.blogspot.com&#x2F;2013&#x2F;12&#x2F;the-fate-...</a>
riphayover 7 years ago
Really interesting study, would have liked to see some preliminary or even anecdotal findings discussed in the article.<p>I&#x27;ve seen some Youtubers pranking drive-through windows in the same way and they&#x27;re pretty funny at the very least.
BjoernKWover 7 years ago
The setup reminds me of a pretty weird story called &quot;The Human Chair&quot;: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;The_Human_Chair" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;The_Human_Chair</a>
rurounijonesover 7 years ago
I have been in a situation when I was mid-crosswalk when an idiot came screaming round a long shallow corner too fast (fast enough to have the white-line between his wheels).<p>I had a 50&#x2F;50 choice. Keep going or run back. In the 3 or so seconds I had we made eye contact and I saw him return his eyes to my front (i.e. he was trying to get back on to his side of the road) so I moved backwards.<p>Not sure what I would have done if it were a self-driving car and unable to do the visual communication (Although the entire point might be moot since a self-driver wouldn&#x27;t be in that situation)
yanni79over 7 years ago
This is what it looked like on the news: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nbcwashington.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;local&#x2F;Why-a-Half-Car-Seat-Half-Man-Was-on-the-Road_Washington-DC-439081263.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nbcwashington.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;local&#x2F;Why-a-Half-Car-Seat-...</a>
kornorkover 7 years ago
So what were the results? Are pedestrians jerks? Do other cars cut them off?
firefoxdover 7 years ago
New Turing test:<p>Is the driver in the car in front of you a human driver or a computer.
zarothover 7 years ago
Looks like they put a cylon indicator on it? Not terrifying at all...<p>As for devising new signals which other drivers are supposed to watch to understand what the car plans to do, I&#x27;d say we need a lot more research to understand if this actually helps or just distracts.
ForFreedomover 7 years ago
Only successful if they can cross the Mexico border. :D
ourmandaveover 7 years ago
Prediction: this is the sell out costume for Halloween.
footaover 7 years ago
This article confused me a lot more before I realized Ford meant the company, not the individual.
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nomoralover 7 years ago
MVP
ProAmover 7 years ago
So they re-did a prank from 2013 but for science [1]<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=xVrJ8DxECbg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=xVrJ8DxECbg</a>
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trhwayover 7 years ago
a programmer disguised as HM Aeron chair ... probably makes for more serene looking open floor office, and also minimizes the chances of the others bugging you with various stuff.
nevesover 7 years ago
In London, with their right positioned drivers, more than once I got a scare of the phantom drivers. :-)
harveywiover 7 years ago
Not quite the promotion to deputy chair that he had expected.
joshdanceover 7 years ago
Reminds me of the magician who goes through drive throughs in that costume.<p>I like the idea of an indicator showing what the car is &#x27;doing&#x27;.
nobodyorotherover 7 years ago
I can&#x27;t wait until somebody patents &quot;signaling pedestrians&quot; and we all have to deal with brand-specific signaling mechanisms.<p>Thank Zod QWERTY was invented so long ago.<p>&#x2F;cynicism
jedbergover 7 years ago
Off topic, but man do I hate looping gifs in my articles. It&#x27;s so incredibly distracting.<p>Sure, play it once, maybe even twice. But an endless loop? That&#x27;s just unnecessary.
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ramastersonover 7 years ago
Leslie Nielsen did this forever ago: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=xqJ3lx43lMg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=xqJ3lx43lMg</a>
askvictorover 7 years ago
The conspiracy theorist in me figures this kind of research will be used by companies that are falling behind in the self driving car race (no pun intended) to get governments to regulate against self driving cars.
MrBlueover 7 years ago
Going off on a tangent here but is the HDR filter really necessary for those images? What is gained by using it? &#x2F;rant
bitwizeover 7 years ago
This isn&#x27;t even the most elaborate market-research stunt I&#x27;ve seen.<p>Some of you older folk may remember an 80s sitcom called Small Wonder, which was a typical American suburbia family sitcom, except the youngest daughter, Vicki, was a robot. What I found unusual about the show was its copyright message: &quot;©1987 The Small Wonder Joint Venture&quot;. In later years I found out that the show was produced in part for market research purposes, to solicit feedback about how Americans might feel about robots in the home -- especially robots that look and behave like humans. It was the 80s and we all thought that was coming Real Soon Now.
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