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The Montreal Protocol was a landmark environmental success

96 pointsby mconeover 7 years ago

8 comments

apoover 7 years ago
<i>Industry lobbied the Ronald Reagan White House and tried to get the Senate to deny ratification of the Protocol, warning of dire economic impacts resulting from a phase-down of their products.</i><p>Not only did the lobbyists fail, they didn&#x27;t get a single vote in the Senate:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;1988&#x2F;03&#x2F;15&#x2F;science&#x2F;treaty-on-ozone-is-backed-in-senate.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;1988&#x2F;03&#x2F;15&#x2F;science&#x2F;treaty-on-ozone-is...</a><p>One important difference between the CFC ban and carbon emissions caps is the availability of inexpensive alternatives: HFCs.<p>In a twist of irony, though, these HFCs themselves appear to be contributing as greenhouse gasses:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;research.noaa.gov&#x2F;News&#x2F;NewsArchive&#x2F;LatestNews&#x2F;TabId&#x2F;684&#x2F;ArtMID&#x2F;1768&#x2F;ArticleID&#x2F;11414&#x2F;HFC-greenhouse-gases-a-tale-of-two-or-more-futures.aspx" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;research.noaa.gov&#x2F;News&#x2F;NewsArchive&#x2F;LatestNews&#x2F;TabId&#x2F;6...</a>
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systematicalover 7 years ago
It amazes me that we humans were able to trust science, pass a law, and fix this problem. The Ozone Layer was a huge thing during my childhood in the late 80s and early 90s. Now faced with a similar threat, in the words of the great Jim Mora, we can&#x27;t do &quot;diddly&quot;. Even the Paris treaty doesn&#x27;t go far enough or include the United States.
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arsover 7 years ago
This treaty should also inform people on how to approach the current CO2 situation:<p>You need an alternative! Telling people to not use the product (conserve) will NOT work.<p>All those UN treaties about reducing this or that are a total waste of time, and are just there to make people feel like we are doing something.<p>They should do one thing, and one thing only: Fund research on alternatives.
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amlutoover 7 years ago
&gt; Our global climate would be at least 25 per cent hotter today without the Protocol, said Garcia, a co-author of two world-avoided studies.<p>Hmm, without the protocol, the average daytime temperature would be (287K)*0.25 = 71.75 K hotter [1]. Phew :) I wonder what the article is trying to say.<p>[1] Using an average surface temperature of 14 degrees Celcius.
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imronover 7 years ago
&gt; Without the Ozone Treaty You’d Get Sunburned in 5 Minutes<p>Welcome to Australia.
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firebird84over 7 years ago
Instead (where I live) I get sunburned in 15. :)
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nevesover 7 years ago
Sorry that USA messed up all the other environmental treaties, like the Kyoto that they signed but the Senate didn&#x27;t subscribed. Maybe we wouldn&#x27;t have Irmas and Marias by now.
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ytersover 7 years ago
I&#x27;ve read ozone is naturally created when atmosphere escapes through a hole.