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China orders N.K. firms to close down within 120 days

145 pointsby sagitariusrexover 7 years ago

10 comments

gypsy_bootsover 7 years ago
This makes me nervous and I fear that Kim Jung Un will have to do something big in order to save face. I hope we make him feel that he has a non-violent way to posture for his people as that's really what this is all about: posturing.
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markwaldronover 7 years ago
Related BBC article with more information: www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41431057
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cromwellianover 7 years ago
Will it really be enforceable though? It seems relatively easy for firms in China to change names, create shells, etc<p>If China can&#x27;t effectively police their own fly-by-night domestic firms from doing by things like selling industrial salts as fake table salt, how likely is it they&#x27;ll be able to shut down NK oriented firms, or even be aggressively inclined to investigate and enforce this order? That is, perhaps this is mostly for show to comply on paper with UN resolutions.
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xir78over 7 years ago
It seems like KJU needs an enemy to stay in power to justify his rule, so he can’t back down on his nuclear program. But now the options are narrowing even more for him, and if he abdicated it doesn’t have anywhere to go. So he may just force a war...
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devdoomariover 7 years ago
I&#x27;ve been wary about the Chinese gov&#x27;s honesty after the economic reparations after THAAD deployment in Korea. (NK made nukes, so US deployed THAAD to defend against NK nukes, and PRC gov. got angry for some defense-only &#x27;weapon&#x27;)<p>Moreover, the Chinese gov. has been sending NK refugees back to NK, even though it knows those people won&#x27;t end well.<p>But anyway, +1 for Chinese gov. on this stance - I guess this might be a start for a morally better China, a real Big Man country.
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Veeloxover 7 years ago
Question, will this have a noticeable impact on the N.K. economy or is it more of an inconvenience?
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JustSomeNobodyover 7 years ago
Most of his behavior is junk behavior and can be ignored. Obviously, if he does something harmful, that should not be ignored, but most everything else can and should be. Give him no response that he can use to put in front of his people; Nothing he can use to spin to show how powerful he is. Ignore it. Take the control away from him.<p>But always keep an eye out for him doing something even remotely good and praise him for that. Send over food or whatever else his country may need. Reward the behavior you want to see. Ignore the behavior you don&#x27;t.
agumonkeyover 7 years ago
Not long ago I was shown this:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=DyqUw0WYwoc" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=DyqUw0WYwoc</a><p>Interview of 2 ex-NorthKorean. It&#x27;s informative (not much pathos or sensationalism even considering the context)
wildmusingsover 7 years ago
I won&#x27;t believe that China is actually serious about reining in North Korea until they stop all imports from North Korea.
longchengover 7 years ago
Historically Korea had been a loyal vassal state of China for thousands of year. China had defended Korea against various barbarians from Mongolia plateau, Japan(multiple times) and America more recently.<p>The reason NK still exists is not USA&#x27;s mercy or NK&#x27;s nuke, it&#x27;s because it&#x27;s neighboring with China &amp; Russia. Same thing applies to Vietnam.