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Switching to e-cigarettes could save 6.6M American smokers

81 pointsby mconeover 7 years ago

13 comments

alexanderstearsover 7 years ago
Our society&#x27;s tendency to moralize or rationalize issues has made it tough to talk about harm reduction.<p>Moralizers focus on the corrosive elements of addiction and rationalizers say that e-cigs are still harmful but they miss the point that many people who smoke e-cigs are better off than they would be if they used cigs to get their nicotine.<p>E-cigs offer a better path to cessation through better control of the nicotine concentrations than cigs do, and e-cigs are probably one of the least harmful ways to get nicotine (and they&#x27;re certainly cheaper than gum and patches).<p>I was very disappointed that the Obama administration tried to apply such heavy-handed regulations to the industry, it has its place and I think we&#x27;d be better off tolerating e-cigs. Give people an alternative to caffeine.<p>I think most productive people are dependent on some stimulant or at least most people find their productivity is enhanced through stimulation. Whether it&#x27;s coffee, nicotine, or amphetamine, we should be honest about why people use it and focus on access that doesn&#x27;t cause undue suffering.
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j0rdover 7 years ago
I quit smoking a while ago for 4 months using a vape, then Thailand&#x27;s military junta banned them and most shops closed.<p>It&#x27;s been a couple years now and tonnes of online shops started to sell and I&#x27;d see lots of local vapers while having coffee, so decided to give that a go.<p>It&#x27;s been a month since I&#x27;ve had a cigarette now since I&#x27;ve started vaping. Energy is up and sense of smell is coming back. Used to smoke a pack a day.<p>I do run the risk of deportation, jail or heavy fines&#x2F;bribes if caught with the thing, but I feel it&#x27;s worth it for health reasons.<p>Also gov just increased tax from 130THB a pack to 150THB a pack.
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dsschnauover 7 years ago
vaping definitely isn&#x27;t healthy but it doesn&#x27;t take much time vaping to determine that it&#x27;s less bad for you than smoking.<p>i still want to quit nicotine entirely one day but until that day comes, my vape pen and i are good friends. 9 months ago i tried one out, and that same day was the very last day i ever smoked a cigarette.
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Ascetikover 7 years ago
I use nasal snuff, the least damaging and least intrusive form of tobacco use.<p>I vaped pretty hardcore for 3 or 4 years, it definitely has an effect on your lungs, especially if you&#x27;re into dual-coil sub-ohm builds and all that jazz.<p>Nasal snuff has been a God-send and is much more enjoyable, at least to me. I still smoke a nice briar pipe with a few different pipe tobacco blends on occasion, but nasal snuff has definitely curbed my tobacco&#x2F;nicotine usage.<p>I could never go back to cigarettes and dip is just kind of gross, although I think it&#x27;s better than cigarettes.
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vivekdover 7 years ago
Ecigs have helped me quit smoking and they are the only thing that worked for me. However, out of all the smokers I know, I only know one other person who managed to quit smoking and stay quit with ecigs. The vast majority of people I know who tried ecigs kept smoking and eventually gave them altogether in favor of cigarettes
loegover 7 years ago
The number is artificially inflated by multiplying by 10 years. It&#x27;s 660,000 people a year, which is still a huge number.
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burntrelish1273over 7 years ago
Yeah. I hate cigarette smoke with a passion but don&#x27;t care if e-cigs puff all they want because it has almost no odor and little&#x2F;no noxious particles. Therefore, it makes sense to tax the heck out of cigarettes and place them in anti-marketing packaging, and perhaps subsidize (no sales tax&#x2F;VAT) e-cigs. Cigarettes are engineered to be as addictive as heroin, but Prohibition is never a good solution, so the best compromise is something like e-cigs which solves both harm-, litter and nuisance-reduction.
mbroshiover 7 years ago
For those looking, I believe the actual research article is here:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;tobaccocontrol.bmj.com&#x2F;content&#x2F;early&#x2F;2017&#x2F;08&#x2F;30&#x2F;tobaccocontrol-2017-053759" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;tobaccocontrol.bmj.com&#x2F;content&#x2F;early&#x2F;2017&#x2F;08&#x2F;30&#x2F;tobac...</a>
g00glerover 7 years ago
I was a pack a day smoker for quite a few years and a quality e cig finally made my smoking habit much less compulsive.<p>I almost made the switch 2 years prior but I wasn&#x27;t allowed to use it in my private office so I figured what&#x27;s the point?<p>Call it habit or whatever but I still can&#x27;t get as much work done at home when I&#x27;m not smoking so I consider it my weekend treat.
Myrmornisover 7 years ago
I was disappointed to see that the city I live in (Oakland) had banned the sale of vaping materials and e-cigs, along with menthols and other flavored tobacco products, to &quot;protect the children&quot;. I know many people who have stopped smoking real tobacco because of the introduction of gaping, so Oakland&#x27;s decision just seems ignorant to me.
randyrandover 7 years ago
I wonder if this obsession with saving lives will end when we hit the maximum human capacity of Earth, sometime in the next 1000 years. Though perhaps we could be multi-solar-system by then.
davidf18over 7 years ago
e-cigs are not the answer: See FDA [1].<p>An intervention that has proved effective for saving lives from tobacco use is MPOWER from the World Health Organization. Raise the cost of tobacco through taxes, ban smoking in public places, hard-hitting, scary, anti-smoking ads, doctors talking to their patients about quitting, nicotine replacement therapy, telephone counseling support. In NYC the age for purchase is 21 as it is nationwide for alcohol. In NYC, the minimum cost per pack is $13.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blogs.fda.gov&#x2F;fdavoice&#x2F;index.php&#x2F;2016&#x2F;08&#x2F;protecting-the-public-and-especially-kids-from-the-dangers-of-tobacco-products-including-e-cigarettes-cigars-and-hookah-tobacco&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blogs.fda.gov&#x2F;fdavoice&#x2F;index.php&#x2F;2016&#x2F;08&#x2F;protecting-...</a>
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joelhaasnootover 7 years ago
&quot;Cold turkey is best way to quit smoking, study says&quot;<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;edition.cnn.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;03&#x2F;15&#x2F;health&#x2F;quit-smoking-cold-turkey&#x2F;index.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;edition.cnn.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;03&#x2F;15&#x2F;health&#x2F;quit-smoking-cold-t...</a><p>Not convinced switching people to a just as addicting, just as nasty way of killing themselves slowly is any better.
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