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The Minimalists want you to be happy with less

64 pointsby fern12over 7 years ago

17 comments

mmelover 7 years ago
I've always found the most joyous part of consumerism is the researching for a particular product pre-acquisition, rather than the product itself post-acquisition.
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kstenerudover 7 years ago
It&#x27;s the same kind of panacea movement that takes root with every generation that&#x27;s about to leave youth behind and enter their scary 30s. Today it&#x27;s the Minimalists. Before that it was environmentalists, yuppies, conservationists, suburbia... The list goes on.<p>You reach a point in your life where you start to question what you&#x27;re doing it all for, and think about what it is you really want and need. Your values become more conservative, and you feel the need to attach to a social movement of the times.<p>It&#x27;s also interesting to note that this transition always involves a moral dimension, including the judgment of those not fully on board with your movement of choice, and also competition with those who ARE on board.<p>Southpark&#x27;s &quot;smug alert&quot; is particularly apt. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=gXZeq9eXAys" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=gXZeq9eXAys</a>
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Hydraulix989over 7 years ago
Before I left San Francisco for Asia, I had a studio apartment completely packed with stuff -- three giant suitcases full of clothes, an entire standing bookshelf full of books that I never read, IKEA furniture, and tons of electronics junk that I just never used (Xbox 360, MS Surface Tablet, old PC laptops).<p>I threw it all away. I must have thrown away $10,000 worth of stuff (well, mostly sold, recycled, gave away, and&#x2F;or put in Schrodinger&#x27;s &quot;storage&quot;).<p>My digital footprint is much larger than the physical junk that I had. Now all of my belongings fit into one suitcase.<p>It was a very relaxing feeling getting rid of all of that junk. I haven&#x27;t missed any of it.<p>It&#x27;s not some hidden agenda that these Minimalists are pushing that they WANT you to be happy with less even though you actually are happier when you have more; I&#x27;ve found that I actually _am_ happier with less (after adopting the right mindset). In massively consumerist cities like SF, there is a ton of social pressure to show off that you have more trendy things than all of your neighbors and to drive that German car, etc. and you just have to use your willpower to not succumb to that pressure.
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w-llover 7 years ago
How come &#x27;minimalists&#x27; always want me to buy a their book, or go to their seminar?
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ryandrakeover 7 years ago
I make it a ritual. Every year on the same day, I go through all my stuff. Everything! If I haven&#x27;t used it in the last year, it goes on Craigslist. It&#x27;s amazing what you can talk yourself into keeping perpetually because &quot;just maybe&quot; you&#x27;ll need it one day!
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yodsanklaiover 7 years ago
I&#x27;m not a minimalist but I do try to consume less. I see it as some sort of personal hygiene. Just like I barely drink soda anymore or avoid junk food. I see consumerism as a pitfall of our society and at least I try to be aware of its mechanisms. I also try to give a new life to my old things by giving it to less fortunates.
tjr225over 7 years ago
I love getting rid of things. I don’t care if anyone else does, but I do. I also like acquiring things- but I usually regret acquiring things more than I regret getting rid of things.
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jinqueenyover 7 years ago
It sometimes amazes you how little you need to be happy yet everything we do is to get as much as possible.
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NiklasMortover 7 years ago
Minimalism is the &quot;being reasonable&quot; of the 21st century. But yea in this consume-oriented world it&#x27;s very rare and thus news worthy.
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stevenwooover 7 years ago
There was one line about cutting down the kitchen but the facebook group is private - do these people cook much at home at all? I don&#x27;t need a lot of gadgets but at minimum one needs a couple of shelves of different pots unless one goes for camping style cooking for every meal - though I would be happy to be corrected.
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thraxilover 7 years ago
I&#x27;m in agreement with most of the anti-consumerism argument. And having spent my adult life living in tiny apartments in NYC and London and moving internationally a few times, I certainly understand how possessions can be a burden.<p>But still, whenever I read about &quot;minimalism&quot;, and people bragging about how they can fit everything they own into a single carry on bag, I can&#x27;t help think that these are really boring people. It just doesn&#x27;t seem like a lifestyle that would make any sense for all but a small number of people that fit some very narrow conditions (&quot;pure&quot; knowledge worker, no pets or children, no interest in whole swaths of hobbies and activities).<p>Eg, I&#x27;m a professional software developer to pay the bills. RSI is a potential career ender for me, so I have an ergonomic setup a good chair, desk, monitors, keyboard and trackball. I can&#x27;t just work on a macbook air in a cafe all the time without risking my livelihood. When I&#x27;m not working, I like to do oil painting (which requires an easel, paints, brushes, cleaning supplies, sketchbooks, etc.), I play and record music (so I&#x27;ve got a bass, a couple guitars, a couple amps, pedals, mics, etc), and I like hiking and camping (so backpack, tent, etc. etc.). My partner teaches electronics and builds hardware games and art installations, so our flat is full of soldering irons, heat guns, reflow stations, and stockpiles of components. She&#x27;s also a musician so she has a small collection of synths and music gear of her own and she likes to do woodworking and build furniture (we don&#x27;t have room for large power tools in our flat, so she has a membership at a maker space for that) and she likes gardening so we have a ton of plants.<p>When I think about all the most interesting, creative people that I know, none of them could do the &quot;minimalism&quot; thing either. They do things like arc welding, hardware reverse engineering, homebrewing and distilling, electroplating, restoring vintage motorcycles, sewing, 3d printing, quilting, farming, baking, cosplay, etc. All of which require having a bunch of stuff.<p>Minimalism is fine and if it works for you and your lifestyle, fine. But I really don&#x27;t like how it always seems to come along with an implicit disdain for physicality and interests that aren&#x27;t completely in line with that knowledge worker on a macbook on an empty desk aesthetic.
bungie4over 7 years ago
At some point, your shit owns you.<p>A few years ago, I was forced to move in with my gf (long story) She owned a house, filled with her own stuff. I was left with no option but to dispense with furniture etc. Some was sold, some given away, some donated. I moved in with my clothes, some memento&#x27;s and heirlooms and some kitchen utensils (just in case it didn&#x27;t work out).<p>I moved everything in two loads of my truck. Over the years, theirs been times where I was considering moving out. Not having to deal with all that STUFF is intensely freeing. Call it an awakening through involuntarily minimalism.
seltzered_over 7 years ago
NYTimes had a decent critique last year of minimalism and the minimalists: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;07&#x2F;31&#x2F;magazine&#x2F;the-oppressive-gospel-of-minimalism.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;07&#x2F;31&#x2F;magazine&#x2F;the-oppressive-go...</a>
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stevenwooover 7 years ago
The family cloth for toilet paper seems less sanitary than not using toilet paper and washing.
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czechdeveloperover 7 years ago
Just to note, &#x27;minimalists&#x27; are almost universally hated in every minimalist community I&#x27;ve seen and I would really not take them as any soft of spokespeople for minimalism.
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spodekover 7 years ago
Minimalism is misnamed: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;joshuaspodek.com&#x2F;minimalism-misnamed-maximalism" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;joshuaspodek.com&#x2F;minimalism-misnamed-maximalism</a><p>If someone doesn&#x27;t value stuff, does value meaning, and gets rid of the former to maximize the latter, why call attention to and name them by what they don&#x27;t value?<p>What we call minimalism comprises people who maximalize meaning, value, importance, and purpose.
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dizzystarover 7 years ago
Wow, I really didn&#x27;t know my natural state of being was catching on.<p>It&#x27;s interesting to read how people actively push themselves towards minimalism. I have the opposite problem: if everything I own doesn&#x27;t fit in an airplane bag, I feel bogged down.<p>I truly dislike buying things. Furniture shopping is just the worst.<p>I guess it partly depends on what you value. I value experiences, like travel and live music far more than I value a shiny thing or piece of clothing.<p>I&#x27;ve been asked advice on how to live without stuff... &quot;How do I start throwing things away?&quot; I don&#x27;t have an answer. I just don&#x27;t want whatever it is.
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