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Scientists Are Just Starting to Understand Earth’s Eighth Continent, Zealandia

127 pointsby dskrvkover 7 years ago

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jessriedelover 7 years ago
Several commenters on <i>semantics</i> in this thread (e.g., <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=15473604" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=15473604</a> , <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=15473705" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=15473705</a> , <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=15473402" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=15473402</a> ) seem to be missing the key empirical fact: that the Earth&#x27;s crust comes in two distinct types: oceanic crust (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Oceanic_crust" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Oceanic_crust</a>) and continental crust (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Continental_crust" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Continental_crust</a>). More specifically, the distribution of crust density (and other properties) is <i>bimodal</i> due to being caused by distinct formation processes. The presence&#x2F;lack of ocean water on top of a location on Earth is a consequence, not cause, of the crust type. This is why the continents are clearly visible on the Earth&#x27;s topographical map without water. Otherwise, you&#x27;d expect the visible shape of the continental land masses to be highly dependent on the exact waterline, which is mostly not the case.<p>So sure, popular media is often framed around silly terminology changes, but this does not mean that calling Zealandia a continent fails to have real empirical meaning, or detract from the fact that Zealandia <i>is</i> unusual in being continental crust largely covered by water. Likewise, removing Pluto from the list of planets reflected the empirical fact that Pluto is qualitatively different than the other planets, and qualitatively similar to the other dwarf planets.
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thx4allthestuffover 7 years ago
As I&#x27;ve grown older, I&#x27;ve come to find peace in letting go of semantics. Is it a dwarf planet, or is it a planet? I&#x27;m content simply pointing at the things that I recognize and saying, &quot;There is that thing. Whatever the kids &#x2F; scientists are calling it these days. I know a lot about that thing, but perhaps not it&#x27;s name.&quot;
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vorgover 7 years ago
8 continents? I guess that&#x27;s Europe, Asia, Africa, North America, South America, Australia, Antarctica, and Zealandia.<p>But I see:<p>* 1 mega-continent, i.e. Eurasia, which has sub-continents Europe and India tacked on<p>* 3 normal continents, i.e. Africa, North America, South America<p>* 3 &quot;dwarf&quot; continents, i.e. Australia, Antarctica, Zealandia<p>Not only are those 3 dwarf continents far smaller than the others, but one&#x27;s covered with sand, another with ice, and the other with water.
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kilovoltaireover 7 years ago
It seems like tectonic plates are less arbitrarily defined than continents.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;List_of_tectonic_plates" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;List_of_tectonic_plates</a>
jpollockover 7 years ago
Nothing like discovering a new continental shelf when an underwater mining gold rush is about to start.
ihmover 7 years ago
All the semantic arguments here would disappear if we all simply recognized the &quot;set of continents&quot; for what it really is: a set-valued sheaf on some parameter space (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;xorshammer.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;07&#x2F;24&#x2F;the-cgp-grey-topos-of-continents&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;xorshammer.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;07&#x2F;24&#x2F;the-cgp-grey-topos-of-cont...</a>).
goodcanadianover 7 years ago
Zealandia, while interesting in many ways, doesn&#x27;t come close to meeting my definition of a continent. I wish they would stop calling it that.
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bitwizeover 7 years ago
Wow, it really is a lost continent, like Mu, or Hyrule from <i>Wind Waker</i>.<p>As I keep saying, the world is a strange and pretty awesome place.
red5tarover 7 years ago
This is quite the extraordinary discovery.
forkLdingover 7 years ago
So we now have 8 continents and 8 planets? Just making sure my scientific knowledge is up-to-date.
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netherover 7 years ago
Granted, the definition of &quot;continent&quot; is not rigorous, and depending on where you grew up in the world, you might have learned there are 5-7 &quot;continents.&quot;
exabrialover 7 years ago
Here I thought it was the Island of Sealand...