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What Hacker News readers want in a job

92 pointsby lynnetyeover 7 years ago

15 comments

expertentippover 7 years ago
Well there are more things which, given the experience, I don't want: corporate bollocks, high discipline competitive working environment, being underpaid/overworked, working in low cost/outsourcing center, insufficient hardware, strict development environment fixated on validation, windows machine with antivirus eating most resources, bloated backend running locally and eating up the remaining resources, pushing and manipulation understood as "teamwork", managers worrying about their cozy position and not seeing or not wanting to see through this "teamwork", begging or even asking for holidays, with the time diluting number of experts and increasing number of those lazy and incurious. Otherwise I'm open minded like a 18 years old virgin.
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jaclazover 7 years ago
Maybe it is just me (and being not a programmer or software engineer it is perfectly OK to ignore this note), but it is not like there is a &quot;wide&quot; representation of more &quot;practical values&quot;.<p>I mean (just examples of less &quot;idealistic&quot; values):<p>1) Job is paid an awful amount of money<p>2) Relocation is fully reimbursed<p>3) Full health assistance provided<p>or even:<p>4) No open space, you will have a real office<p>might be - I believe - more selected than &quot;Has good beer&quot;.
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jonduboisover 7 years ago
For the last 10 years it was all about learning and sometimes the company mission.<p>Now I&#x27;m turning 30 so it&#x27;s mostly about money. Present money or future money.
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ACow_Adonisover 7 years ago
&quot;United States choose &#x27;Promotes from Within&#x27; more than readers from anywhere else.&quot;<p>Can only speak for myself as an Australian, but i initially took this as some kind of &quot;Anthony Robbins&quot; type bullshit motivational phrase or american corporate marketing nonsense statement.<p>Now that i pause and ask myself to reframe it, presumably in its intended form, my second natural response is &quot;well, where else would they promote from?&quot;, thus making it a truism.<p>Only when i pause even longer would I consider it as asking about the phenomenon of needing to job-hop to get ahead.<p>But in short, i don&#x27;t think the phrase captures a universal intended meaning very well :)
edw519over 7 years ago
The longer I work, the more &quot;High Quality Code Base&quot; matters to me.<p>Maybe after you&#x27;ve had enough of working on so much others&#x27; shit, not much else matters.
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paul7986over 7 years ago
- Zero egos &amp; cut throat B.S.<p>- Camaraderie<p>- Kindness<p>- Respect<p>- Fair market salary with raises that match what recruiters offer daily
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coreygarveyover 7 years ago
Interesting that High Employee Retention is so high for the US (#4) but the only country with it in the top 10 is India (#10). As an engineer who has recently moved from the US to the UK, I&#x27;m just getting used to these cultural differences and I think mature tech locations (US) are able to understand the importance of employee retention toward an individuals fulfillment in the job. A deeper dive into the statistics would be insightful for comparing countries. Specifically, looking at the values that are uniquely high or low for a location.
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watwutover 7 years ago
I am surprised over &quot;eats lunch together&quot; being so high. I dont get why would anyone care about that at all.
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jackmottover 7 years ago
High pay, interesting work that makes the world better, and flexible low hours =)
anonnyjover 7 years ago
Something with low hours (think: 2 days a week), no bullshit like open offices, and mininal office politics.<p>Of course with that first requirement I&#x27;m unemployable, so, I&#x27;ll stick to teaching English and keep my dev skills for private projects.
ionisedover 7 years ago
&gt; Eats lunch together<p>Is that really high up on the list when people are looking for a new job?<p>I&#x27;m perfectly fine working in teams and actively enjoy it for the most part, but lunchtime is my time.<p>I spend it reading articles I&#x27;ve saved for later, studying something unrelated to work, reading a book or even just going for a walk.<p>I like my co-workers a lot and I meet them outside work for nights out&#x2F;leaving drinks etc. but I still prefer to eat by myself and take a break from everything.
marzellover 7 years ago
I&#x27;d like to point out how some of the responses may be skewed. This is not a criticism, but worth discussing.<p>I would suggest that in some cases, the priority of various values has a lot to do with fears and insufficiency in recent experience, rather than the true priority given to a particular value.<p>Example: In the US, Promotes From Within is rated higher than other values when compared against other regions. Does this mean it really is a higher-priority value, or is this a contrast to experience for US workers? Maybe they are mentioning it more because they are experiencing it less, but that doesn&#x27;t mean other things they assume&#x2F;always get are not more important. I may not mention High Wages if I am used to getting paid well, but that doesn&#x27;t mean I would not recognize that as a priority if I faced a situation where I might get paid a lot less.
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sergiotapiaover 7 years ago
It immediately jumps out at me that &quot;Team is diverse&quot; has such a high bar. Is this the HN&#x2F;San Fransisco bubble in action?<p>In all of the interviews I&#x27;ve done as both interviewer and interviewee, not once has &quot;diversity&quot; been mentioned. In fact, it&#x27;s so strange that it feels oddly hostile to me. It&#x27;s that weird. I can&#x27;t fathom asking someone who&#x27;s interviewing me: &quot;Do you have enough latinos in your team?&quot;
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burnt1ceover 7 years ago
No assholes. =)
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pklauslerover 7 years ago
Money.