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How to break into 100k+ Euro salary in EU/EEA?

61 pointsby eskimo87over 7 years ago
I have total 7 years of dev+DS experience and have ambitions to break into 100k+ salary range in coming year. Should I must move into management role for this?

19 comments

simonebrunozziover 7 years ago
Sorry mate, but if you&#x27;d like some good advice from this crowd, you should spend more than 20 seconds to describe your issue and the type of suggestions you are looking for. That&#x27;s probably lesson #1 in how to get to a 100k salary :)<p>You don&#x27;t mention: where you are located; what current job you have; what&#x27;s DS; what kind of dev work have you done.<p>Also, any github &#x2F; stack overflow link, so that we can get a better sense of your skills?
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neohamover 7 years ago
Plenty of contracting roles paying £500-600&#x2F;day in London, a few even up to £800 (and &#x27;Head of&#x27;&#x2F;CTO level consulting gigs hovering around £1k&#x2F;day although very rare as most of those positions are perm).<p>I know some rather mediocre developers on £550 day rates.<p>For perm positions, such roles aren&#x27;t too uncommon for senior&#x2F;lead level devs in finance, tech consultancy (doing SAP&#x2F;Salesforce work at some place like Accenture, etc) or the top tech firms - though you&#x27;ll want to avoid the underpaying Shoreditch start-ups.<p>Does mean living in London though, where a £100k salary still barely gets you a mortgage for a 3 bed semi. Plus, £100k will soon be worth about €27 but right now it&#x27;s about 1:1.
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Yoricover 7 years ago
I suspect that the only companies with this kind of salary in the EU are Palantir and trading companies (e.g. Jane Street).<p>So, it kind of depends on what you&#x27;re willing to do for money. I&#x27;m personally not quite enthusiastic at the idea of working for either.
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mschuster91over 7 years ago
That level of salary... well I&#x27;d say you gotta sell your soul and head off into banking or into a role as consultant somewhere, but no way for ordinary devs, even in Germany. For what it&#x27;s worth I know directors of 300+ employee companies that don&#x27;t crack the 100k.<p>Alternatively try to land a remote job for some Valley-based or other VC backed company, but beware of the tax and legal implications of doing so.
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osrecover 7 years ago
Not sure about a salary, but contracting can comfortably let you earn that based on a daily rate. I&#x27;ve even seen Qlikview or Excel roles at banks in the UK that pay 600+ per day! The trick is to have a niche - look at what&#x27;s hot in contracting job ads and read up about it. Get confident with the tech&#x2F;software they ask for and go for a few interviews. Getting a contracting role is generally a lot easier than a permanent position, and in my experience, a contracting job can be just as secure as a perm job.
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jzwinckover 7 years ago
You&#x27;ve asked how you can get 100k EUR per year. But you have not mentioned anything about the value you can offer for this money (unless DS means something there, I have no idea what DS is).<p>In many companies, low-level managers don&#x27;t earn that much (especially green ones, which it sounds like you would be during the time frame you specified). Companies wouldn&#x27;t want to distract all their employees by offering a huge pay bump just to switch fields.<p>When you ask for money you should first talk about what you can contribute. Which is?
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cjbprimeover 7 years ago
Working remotely for a Silicon Valley company seems the easiest way.
toygover 7 years ago
Work remotely for silicon valley companies.
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hobo_markover 7 years ago
If the salary is all you are after and do not mind the culture shock, did you look into relocating to Switzerland?
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HatchedLake721over 7 years ago
Look at contracting and London. There’s tons of £500+ per day rates dev contracts around. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.jobserve.com&#x2F;gb&#x2F;en&#x2F;JobSearch.aspx?shid=E1AD4AE0F7CE019CE8" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.jobserve.com&#x2F;gb&#x2F;en&#x2F;JobSearch.aspx?shid=E1AD4AE0F...</a>
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poloteover 7 years ago
As others said, it is very difficult, a few devs earn that in EU.<p>Options are :<p>- CTO but not early stage<p>- freelancing : 7 years of experience could be more than 500€ per day. And if you are in a niche, could be much more<p>- Remote for an american company<p>- I know some startups in Paris which hire at more than 100k euro but you need to be outstanding.
BjoernKWover 7 years ago
Though technically not salary but revenue freelancing or rather self-employed consulting is a realistic option for reaching that kind of annual income.<p>One piece of advice though: Don&#x27;t do it for the money (or the money alone, at least). If you want to run a sustainable consulting practice you have to be passionate about what you&#x27;re doing and constantly deliver high-quality work.<p>Confidently marketing your services is essential. If you&#x27;re good at solving important problems for your customers that should be reflected in your rates. Speaking of which, if possible adopt value-based pricing instead of time-based, i.e. daily or hourly, rates.
smegelover 7 years ago
&gt; Should I must move into management role for this?<p>Do you want to be a manager? If not, you will be trading a life of misery for a modest pay raise.
cloudheadover 7 years ago
I know several engineers making over 100k in the EU. You just have to be really good at what you do and pick a company which pays well.
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jlengrandover 7 years ago
I know banking offers that kind of salary, in the Netherlands. But it&#x27;s the higher tier of the bucket though.
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pkreftaover 7 years ago
Migrate to Switzerland :) Salaries there are much higher than rest of the Europe but living there is more expensive too.
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flotilloover 7 years ago
&gt; <i>So what makes you feel you deserve to earn more than 99.93% of the world&#x27;s population?</i><p>Looks like you hit a nerve (perhaps a somewhat guilty one) with some users.<p>But I was wondering similar - why does the OP feel the need to earn this much money? I suspect psychological rather than financial insecurity, given that they&#x27;re already likely to be a relatively high earner.
danm07over 7 years ago
Management makes less than devs in my experience.
BLanenover 7 years ago
Switzerland.